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    Default Re: New Grapple exceeds expectations

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleBuck1 View Post
    Just curious- why are you only going to use a single grapple on the "C" / rake style grapple?
    2nd.

    I suspect the answer is because on the rake style grapples the cylinders are generally behind the fixed portion and using 1 grapply allows structural stability while squeezing.

    I have been eye-balling this:
    Rake Master: The Most Versatile Clean-Up Rake Ever Made.
    as a compromise between ALL of the options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avc8130

    2nd.

    I suspect the answer is because on the rake style grapples the cylinders are generally behind the fixed portion and using 1 grapply allows structural stability while squeezing.

    I have been eye-balling this:
    Rake Master: The Most Versatile Clean-Up Rake Ever Made.
    as a compromise between ALL of the options.

    ac
    The Rakemaster grapple looks well built. I like the lower tines. One thing I might point out is that the top tines are only in two locations rather than spread across like most C grapples. The two locations reminds me of an L grapple where you mostly are trying to hold the load on the bottom tines while transporting and lifting. On a C grapple a handy feature is to uncurl completely so just your top tines are touching the ground and then back rake. I do this a fair amount in the hay barn to rake up loose hay. Also after clearing brush in a clean up mode. To do this right you need tines the full width of the grapple. In this case I think the wider grapple the better.

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    Default Re: New Grapple exceeds expectations

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBuyer View Post
    On a C grapple a handy feature is to uncurl completely so just your top tines are touching the ground and then back rake. I do this a fair amount in the hay barn to rake up loose hay. Also after clearing brush in a clean up mode. To do this right you need tines the full width of the grapple. In this case I think the wider grapple the better.
    I agree with you Joe. I think the C grapple is stronger and more versatile/useful with a full width clamping tine bar.
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    Default Re: New Grapple exceeds expectations

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBuyer View Post
    The Rakemaster grapple looks well built. I like the lower tines. One thing I might point out is that the top tines are only in two locations rather than spread across like most C grapples. The two locations reminds me of an L grapple where you mostly are trying to hold the load on the bottom tines while transporting and lifting. On a C grapple a handy feature is to uncurl completely so just your top tines are touching the ground and then back rake. I do this a fair amount in the hay barn to rake up loose hay. Also after clearing brush in a clean up mode. To do this right you need tines the full width of the grapple. In this case I think the wider grapple the better.
    Will the single full width clamp bite down well on offset loads such as a stump?

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    Default Re: New Grapple exceeds expectations

    Quote Originally Posted by avc8130 View Post
    Will the single full width clamp bite down well on offset loads such as a stump?

    ac
    I may worry to much, but I worry about the single independant tines being located at the outer edges of the grapple and not in the middle (or all the way across) because of possible bending of the loader. I have seem several different loader arms that have been bent because of unballanced load all on one side or the other. The newer style loaders for compact tractors just are not built as HD as the older style tractors loaders were and they do bend, that doesn't stop them from being used but they do bend.
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    Default Re: New Grapple exceeds expectations

    Quote Originally Posted by avc8130 View Post

    I have been eye-balling this:
    Rake Master: The Most Versatile Clean-Up Rake Ever Made.
    as a compromise between ALL of the options.

    ac
    The Rake Shop (www.TheRakeShop.com / Root Rakes Grapples Attachments & Skid Steers) offers a similar design. No clue on pricing or quality.

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    Default Re: New Grapple exceeds expectations

    This is the unit I have been looking at, this one or the 60" unit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by avc8130 View Post

    Will the single full width clamp bite down well on offset loads such as a stump?

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    More importantly, will it bite down well on two different sized stumps?
    I find it useful to be able to carry multiple stumps at once. I did this a lot when clearing my land for a new cabin, it effectively cut my trips in half since I could easily carry two stumps at once to the "stump dump". But I understand most people aren't clearing land with their grapples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avc8130

    Will the single full width clamp bite down well on offset loads such as a stump?

    ac
    No, it will be unbalanced. It isn't an issue for me because I use my C grapple on brush which is much more even than something like a stump. I intend to get an L grapple with either two independent clamps on each side or a single in the middle. Now that EA is building one I will wait to see their pricing. One other thing not too talked about on grapples is the vertical opening size. To me it is as important as the width. If you have not used a grapple, you would be amazed how much debris you can pick up if you have a big bite. I hope EA's has a large opening. The WR Long L grapple seems to open wider than most.

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    Default Re: New Grapple exceeds expectations

    Quote Originally Posted by Piston View Post
    More importantly, will it bite down well on two different sized stumps?
    I find it useful to be able to carry multiple stumps at once. I did this a lot when clearing my land for a new cabin, it effectively cut my trips in half since I could easily carry two stumps at once to the "stump dump". But I understand most people aren't clearing land with their grapples.

    Well said. I built my Grapple with two cylinders, two claws per cylinder. And as you stated, I can easily carry two stumps or grip an odd shaped load of brush, rock, junk iron, whatever I want to pick up. I can also easily pick up small single items such as a basketball sized rock.
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