New Grapple exceeds expectations

   / New Grapple exceeds expectations #61  
An 860 lb. grapple sounds awfully heavy for a 45 hp tractor, but if you're happy with it, that's all that matters.

Personally, we wouldn't recommend a grapple that heavy for a compact tractor. It isn't AS important with a rake style grapple if you're mainly using it at ground level but you will be more limited with a heavy grapple if you plan on lifting and loading because the weight will really hinder you more than it helps. I don't want to open up a can of grapple wars here either but with the right design and materials, excess weight can be avoided. Our revolutionary new wicked compact grapple takes compact grapples to the next level with an exciting new design that maintains durability and functionality without the unnecessary, excess weight.
 
   / New Grapple exceeds expectations #62  
Personally, we wouldn't recommend a grapple that heavy for a compact tractor. It isn't AS important with a rake style grapple if you're mainly using it at ground level but you will be more limited with a heavy grapple if you plan on lifting and loading because the weight will really hinder you more than it helps. I don't want to open up a can of grapple wars here either but with the right design and materials, excess weight can be avoided. Our revolutionary new wicked compact grapple takes compact grapples to the next level with an exciting new design that maintains durability and functionality without the unnecessary, excess weight.

What type steel and what thickness are the tines made of? Is it the L shape or curve tines? What is the distance from tip of tine to the reinforcement structure? What is weight for 72" and what type of structure on the grapple clamp?
The bucket on a JD 110 is relatively heavy itself so curious what weight you are talking about.
 
   / New Grapple exceeds expectations #63  
What type steel and what thickness are the tines made of? Is it the L shape or curve tines? What is the distance from tip of tine to the reinforcement structure? What is weight for 72" and what type of structure on the grapple clamp?
The bucket on a JD 110 is relatively heavy itself so curious what weight you are talking about.
I went over all of the info that Ted has supplied so far in the wicked grapple thread here on TBN. The first one we've made and used is a 66" and weighs 408 pounds. They'll be offered in 54", 60", 66" and 72". The full specs and product video should be on our website in the near future.
 
   / New Grapple exceeds expectations #64  
Piston can give you the pros of his style. Which I would think carrying large stacks of boards would be one of them. The claw style can carry things as well by rolling the grapple back. Both are good and depends a lot on the user and his creativity.
Kytractor hit the nail on the head with that statement!

I've used both styles and ended up buying the "L" style based on the experience I've had with it. A lot of my "extreme satisfaction" from my grapple, comes from the fact that I did a LOT of researching on grapples, and tried a couple different ones out, while keeping my main uses in mind for what I would be using it for. Like many people, I tend to do extensive research on something before pulling the trigger!

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FWIW I'm looking for a grapple to clean up logging slash including some logs and also large stumps that were dug out with a dozer or excavator by the previous owner so he could food plots.
This is what I use my grapple for about half the time. I do a lot of "hobby" logging and after dropping and limbing the tree, I use the grapple to clean it all up. I'm working on clearing some land as well, and often times I'll use the grapple to carry more than one stump at a time. This is where the two thumbs operating independently of one another really shine.


But I can't pick up logs very well with it. I can, but I end up re-gripping a few times. Kytractor's Anbo looks like it can pick up logs much better than mine since his lower teeth are longer. The "L" shape lends itself to getting under logs and general debris
With the "L" shape grapple, your not relying on the squeezing power of the grapple to contain the load, your letting gravity help you by holding the load with the lower tines of the grapple, and using the grapple arms more to "secure" the load in place. Typically, you want gravity to work with you, and not have to fight it.


It also makes it easy to use some what like a dozer and get under the roots and pop them as you go.
The root rake style DOES work better for this! Since the tines don't stick out as far, you have a lot more breakout force for lifting and popping roots out. However, (for my situation) I find that if I need to do much "bulldozing" style work to rip roots out, the scarifiers on my box blade are a lot more effective than the root rake style grapple would be.


There are certainly advantages to each type, and although I've used the root rake style, I don't have "extensive" use with it like I do with the "L" style as you are referring to it.

The "L" style is better at carrying items without relying on the "squeezing" pressure of the grapple, as mentioned, I can carry items like boards very effectively. Most people probably don't use the grapple for carrying boards around, but it is an example of the versatility of them.



A DISadvantage of the "L" style that I have, is since the tines are so long, you lose a lot of breakout force. I have noticed this to be an issue when trying to break roots free. This is where the "root rake" style is superior in my opinion, hence the name.

I try to keep an unbiased opinion when recommending grapples, but that is sometimes hard to do! *Ultimately, I chose the grapple I did based on my uses I expected. *I ended up using it for far more things than I ever thought possible. *Since June of 2011, I've only had my bucket on ONE time, as I've found the "L" style grapple can hold just about everything I need to use my tractor for.*

Take a look at this thread if you haven't already seen it, to get a good idea of what I use the grapple for.

Grappling fun - A Picture Thread....

I do think that the "L" style is more versatile over all, but if your needs are mostly for the "raking" action and popping roots, then I think the root rake style may fit you better.
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Over the years I have heard many arguments here on TBN on the two different types of Grapples as well as the proper width
I couldn't have said it better myself! At the end of the day, there are indeed advantages and disadvantages of both styles, sizes, weights etc and neither one is really "better" than the other, it depends on your uses and your personal preferences. I have listed some of my opinions, and they are just that, my opinions.
Going from a bucket, to ANY type of grapple, is going to be an amazing increase in efficiency, versatility, and 'fun' factor. I think the details just come down to you and your specific needs.
 
   / New Grapple exceeds expectations #65  
Great post, well stated. An L grapple is on my list to buy to go with my Rake style. That way I don't have to fuss over which is best. LOL
 
   / New Grapple exceeds expectations #66  
Great post, well stated. An L grapple is on my list to buy to go with my Rake style. That way I don't have to fuss over which is best. LOL

Joe,
I've very seriously considered buying a root rake style as well, for the same reason! :thumbsup:
I have a couple other attachments on my radar first, but I'll most likely have a root rake style at some point down the road!
 
   / New Grapple exceeds expectations #67  
I have an extensive amount of brush which is where the Rake excels and why I have it. But your research is right, an L would be more versatile.
 
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Personally, we wouldn't recommend a grapple that heavy for a compact tractor. It isn't AS important with a rake style grapple if you're mainly using it at ground level but you will be more limited with a heavy grapple if you plan on lifting and loading because the weight will really hinder you more than it helps. I don't want to open up a can of grapple wars here either but with the right design and materials, excess weight can be avoided. Our revolutionary new wicked compact grapple takes compact grapples to the next level with an exciting new design that maintains durability and functionality without the unnecessary, excess weight.[/QUOTE

The Grs 72 Grapple is not to heavy in the least for my L45. I do a lot more than than at ground level too and have yet to be hindered. I think it would depend on the tractors lift capabilities. If I still had my L3830, than it would be to heavy and I would have opted for a 300+ lb version. For my M59 I would have chosen Heavier. Your wicked one does look good however. Mine is around 140,000 psi. They have two lighter versions at 5.5 ft 310 lbs and 440lbs. I have also seen the 72 version of Pistons grapple and it was pretty impressive as well. It's great we have choices to fit our individual needs. I'm now in the market for a tiller and post hole digger.
 
   / New Grapple exceeds expectations #69  
I have been looking at a grapple of the design below or getting the same Anbo GR-S. The are both really nice units.

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I have been looking at a grapple of the design below or getting the same Anbo GR-S. The are both really nice units.

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I like that one. It looks to have thicker tines than the one I have and the bracing is different.
 
 
 
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