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12-29-2012, 08:33 AM #1Veteran Member
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water roller winterizing
just received a new two foot by five foot water roller, Ohio Steel, 1150 pounds full.
I'd like to be able to use it during the winter and keep it filled, stored in an unheated barn.
If I put water in it, I have to put some form of antifreeze, and that could get really expensive in a hurry.
The opening hole is unfortunately very small, about an inch with what appears to be a rubber expansion plug tightened by a center screw.
I've been trying to think of alternatives to water. Sand? Nice inert substance and won't cause rust. Actually I guess it would make the inside a lapidary tumbler
of sorts.
I do NOT want to buy twenty gallons of antifreeze for this thing. The roller holds well over a hundred gallons.
Suggestions appreciated. Drew2012 Kubota L5740HSTC3 with FEL and Long grapple, 1986 Case IH 255, Land Pride PD10 PHD, Land Pride RCR60 mower, Land Pride box blade and rear rake, Fred Cain subsoiler, County Line potato plow, County Line 1 bottom plow, 1986 Gravely 8199G with tow behind DR rototiller, 50" deck+40" Gravely wing mower, Gravely snowblower, Swisher 44 rough cut mower,Ariens snowblower, Echo 450-18 & 600-24, Echo PPT280, 2006 JD LX280, , 1968 Cub Cadet 125, Husky-Speeco 35 ton splitter 2012 Suburban 2500
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12-29-2012, 09:54 AM #2Platinum Member
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Re: water roller winterizing
Daugen,......I'll be following this thread also. My roller/spiker holds 46 gallons and it would be nice to have it available year round without filling/draining the water. Maybe a one time purchase of about 20 gallons antifreeze wouldn't be so bad for me. Also it is pretty heavy when filled, in case one wants to shove it around when parked. Your roller is so big however. I can't think of a handy, inexpensive answer. Happy new year and good luck. Mike
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12-29-2012, 09:59 AM #3
Re: water roller winterizing
ask yourself how much would you spend on sand? how much would you spend on cheap washer fluid? you might be able to buy a pallet worth at a discounted price from a local store if you ask the manager so you can get over 100 gallons less then 100 bucks. Any WF left over is a plus for your cars!
Have you gone to your local auto repair shop and asked what do they do with antifreeze they replace in flushing? perhaps they be willing to give it to you free or cheap? put in a ad in craigslist for anyone doing a home radiator flush you can take it away for free? Do you need to flush your own radiator from tractor/cars/trucks/etc?
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12-29-2012, 10:27 AM #4Veteran Member
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Re: water roller winterizing
Ohio Steel Lawn Roller 60"x24" - GEMPLER'S
ok, 117 gallons total. To keep water at least slushy, I bet I'd need at least 25 gallons of antifreeze. yikes.
note the reference to sand.
Now where I can I buy sand where they will feed it into my barrel with a nozzle? Now that's dreaming for sure.2012 Kubota L5740HSTC3 with FEL and Long grapple, 1986 Case IH 255, Land Pride PD10 PHD, Land Pride RCR60 mower, Land Pride box blade and rear rake, Fred Cain subsoiler, County Line potato plow, County Line 1 bottom plow, 1986 Gravely 8199G with tow behind DR rototiller, 50" deck+40" Gravely wing mower, Gravely snowblower, Swisher 44 rough cut mower,Ariens snowblower, Echo 450-18 & 600-24, Echo PPT280, 2006 JD LX280, , 1968 Cub Cadet 125, Husky-Speeco 35 ton splitter 2012 Suburban 2500
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12-29-2012, 11:56 AM #5Elite Member
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Re: water roller winterizing
If you never plan to drain it, consider mixing up a mixture of calcium chloride and water as used for many years in tubed tractor tires. Fill it completely full and no air in it should keep the CC from corroding the roller inside. Much cheaper than antifreeze and will add a lot more weight to the water.
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12-29-2012, 01:15 PM #6Elite Member
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You could have it filled with methanol.
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12-29-2012, 01:35 PM #7Silver Member
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Re: water roller winterizing
I filled one I used to have with sand. The process was laborious and time consuming, but it worked well and never needed maintenance.
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12-29-2012, 01:54 PM #8Veteran Member
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Re: water roller winterizing
sort of like driving my own still...
well, if methanol costs less than a buck a gallon, that might be interesting.
Anything that will protect me down to about true zero at the machine.
If it's colder than that, global warming is a joke and the ice age cometh.
Good topic for another thread...
I'm leaning towards sand at the moment because that eliminates any toxicity or flammability issues if it springs a leak or
when filling. I'm thinking put a 80 pound bag of sand on the edge of the bucket and at least get it positioned to pour through
a metal funnel I have, one without a mesh screen built in. Beginning guess of about 1000 pounds of sand, so at 80 pounds a bag, yeah, I'd say that
defines laborious. Well, in for a penny. Lets see, with a one inch opening, and an efficiency close to zero, how long will it take to fill this sucker?
I better start early.
If this adventure was in filling my tractor tires, which I still might do, I'd go with what's recommended. But just thinking of dumping all that antifreeze or windshield washer
fluid in there...well, I'd sure have the market cornered on windshield fluid if there was a shortage...
thanks to all.
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12-29-2012, 02:01 PM #9Super Member
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Re: water roller winterizing
Do you have a welder? If so, cut a 4-6" square "fill hole" and weld it shut then done.
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12-29-2012, 02:02 PM #10Gold Member
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Re: water roller winterizing
Is it made of metal or plastic???? If metal I would cut a larger opening and weld it back in when I was done.
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