The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

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The more you guys keep salvating over it, the price is going up! Lol. I think it garbage, it's to wide, to long doesn't open enough, it's to light��, it's to black, it's to expensive��.
I'm kidding of course. This morning I ordered a 48" grapple and pallet forks from palletfork.com, hope I don't regret it. I'm sure I won't ( but I will check back to see what the cost of these are).
 
   / The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!! #12  
I agree that a 48" should be considered also. A lot of SCUT/CUT owners have been buying them lately.
 
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Average steel has a yield strength of 36,000 pounds. The steel we're using in this grapple to make it light and strong is a minimum of 80,000 pound yield strength. The cost is double but the results are great!!
The following is straight from Ted:
I went from 3/8" tines to 5/16" using 80,000 yield strength steel then laminated(with a small gusset at the end) the tips with 3/16" making it go thru the ground with just little grooves.

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Since A36 steel has a minimum yield strength of 36,000 psi and
A514 /T1 steel has a yield strength of 100,000 psi.

Are you using A656 Grade 80 or some other steel to get your 80,000psi yield?
I have read where many of the manufacturers are using at least A514. A couple even higher yield strength. From the picture your tines seem very short before the cross support. Is that true or is it the picture that makes it look that way?
 
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Looks really good! On my wr long grapple I ordered it with the optional bottom tines that angle down in the front. I find these work much better for moving logs. Might be somethin for y'all to consider.

Ted isn't planning on making any with different tines. He used it extensively and said it worked great for picking up and moving logs. He is planning on offering additional bolt on tines that will go between the existing tines and lessen the spacing. This allows for finer sifting which is useful in certain applications.
 
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I see why you call them wicked, the name fits. I have seen the serrated tips before, I assume for gripping and pulling. I always worried that they would also cling to the load when you are trying to release, but maybe not. Depends on what you would be grappling I guess.
Ted said the sharp tines are awesome for gripping. He didn't have any problems unloading the grapple and says there's no way he'd trade it for the smooth tip grapple he was previously using. For picking material up, the leading edge of the tips are rounded so they allow the larger logs/material to roll right over them.
 
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He is planning on offering additional bolt on tines that will go between the existing tines and lessen the spacing. This allows for finer sifting which is useful in certain applications.

That is a great idea! When I bought my WR Long grapple, Nelson asked if I wanted extra tines welded in place, and I was worried about the additional weight from so much talk on TBN about it, so I declined. Now that I realize the additional weight wont' be an issue, I have cut some 22" long pieces of 2.5" flatbar to weld in between the tines myself. I find that medium sized rocks and firewood will fall between the 9" spacing that I have. I wish I had just had them weld the extra tines in the first place.

I think offering the bolt on tines is a very smart idea for this grapple. :thumbsup:
 
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Since A36 steel has a minimum yield strength of 36,000 psi and
A514 /T1 steel has a yield strength of 100,000 psi.

Are you using A656 Grade 80 or some other steel to get your 80,000psi yield?
I have read where many of the manufacturers are using at least A514. A couple even higher yield strength. From the picture your tines seem very short before the cross support. Is that true or is it the picture that makes it look that way?
I can tell you've done your homework. We are using Grade 80 for a couple different reasons.
A main reason for choosing Grade 80 is that it is plenty strong for this application and anything more, we believe, would unnecessarily inflate the cost.
None of our suppliers have T1 steel available under 1/2".
T1 steel is a lot more temperamental to machine and weld than what we are using.
The low quality cell phone photos may be making the tines look short but they're really not. We'll have some high quality pics on the website in the near future.(and a video)
 
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What about attachment options- is it going to be available in skid-steer style quick attach mounts only?
 
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What about attachment options- is it going to be available in skid-steer style quick attach mounts only?

As of right now, we will only offer it with the skid-steer style quick attach however we will be adding the JD quick attach as an option in the next couple of weeks. We are not planning on offering any pin-on mounts in the future for these grapples but we do offer custom quick attach adapters to convert pin-on loaders to skid steer quick attach.
 
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I agree that a 48" should be considered also. A lot of SCUT/CUT owners have been buying them lately.

We will consider a super light 48" for the future and if/when that happens, they will most likely be offered with the most popular subcompact pin-on loader mounts as an option.
 
 
 
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