quick hitch

what is the difference between pats quick hitch and this type i would think this type would be easier?
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps16754fb0.jpg

Pat's is adjustable and only hooks at the lower pins. The full 3pt QH that you have shown is a set dimension and all of your implements have to match those width dimensions. If you want to take the time to have all of your implements match, it is better IMO. A lot of people don't want to go to the trouble of doing that, so they use the Pat's QH. ;)

It is easier with that, if like said all your attachments accept it properly. I had to do a little work on a few implements to get them all the same, but once thats done I just back up lift the 3pt and slap the handles down and away I go.

Pats will require a longer toplink, the QH will not.

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Originally Posted by 94BULLITT

Pats will require a longer toplink, the QH will not.

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I didn't have to get a longer toplink when I got my mine from Pat.

all of your implements have to match those width dimensions.

I'm in the process of making the same decision, and I just don't understand why Cat 1 or Cat 2 implements shouldn't be standard sized, both
in the pin size and the distances between them. Isn't this an agreed upon standard?
If I bought all new three point implements from major makers, would this still be a problem, or is it just older equipment?

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Originally Posted by daugen

all of your implements have to match those width dimensions.

I'm in the process of making the same decision, and I just don't understand why Cat 1 or Cat 2 implements shouldn't be standard sized, both
in the pin size and the distances between them. Isn't this an agreed upon standard?
If I bought all new three point implements from major makers, would this still be a problem, or is it just older equipment?

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Sometimes a old implement will work other times it will not. All of my older implements that are not QH compatible is because the toplink spacing is to tall or a reinforcement is in the way for the top hook on the QH.

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Originally Posted by daugen

all of your implements have to match those width dimensions.

I'm in the process of making the same decision, and I just don't understand why Cat 1 or Cat 2 implements shouldn't be standard sized, both
in the pin size and the distances between them. Isn't this an agreed upon standard?
If I bought all new three point implements from major makers, would this still be a problem, or is it just older equipment?

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I think for the most part it is older implements as far as the dimensions go. But even today's new implements are not all quick hitch compatable. Those are some big hooks that have to fit on the connection points and every manufacturer does not allow for them on all of their implements. ;)

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Originally Posted by daugen

all of your implements have to match those width dimensions.

I'm in the process of making the same decision, and I just don't understand why Cat 1 or Cat 2 implements shouldn't be standard sized, both
in the pin size and the distances between them. Isn't this an agreed upon standard?
If I bought all new three point implements from major makers, would this still be a problem, or is it just older equipment?

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Manufacturers are getting better at standardizing attachments for the 3PH. But Cat 1 and Cat 2 will never be the same. Their basic standards are different.

Some manufacturers will make their implements adaptable to both standards but I'm not sure how something like that will affect the OP's QH.

The top link hook on the pictured QH can be problematical on some implements - even modern ones. Sometimes the top link attachment has a bolt, spacer, or reinforcement bar just under the top link attachment point that interferes with hooking up. You just have to get off of the tractor to hook up the top link in that case.

But then it is not much different than the Pat's. Plus, the Pat's will accommodate any lower lift point variations. Get a Cat 2 Pat's and you can bush the Cat 1 implements to fit perfectly. The bushings are cheap.

Oh, and you may need longer PTO shafts, or an extension, with the Pat's or the frame style QH. The Pat's on my M7040 is an insert that replaced the telescoping lift arm ends so there is no variation in arm length.

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Originally Posted by clee4020

I didn't have to get a longer toplink when I got my mine from Pat.

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Maybe the case for your application but no matter what way you slice it, the pats system restricts the length of the top link. It's basic physics