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02-12-2013, 12:30 PM #1New Member
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Can I use my rear remote to operate a grapple?
Good Morning All,
I have a Mahindra 5010 HST with an auxillary remote on the back end. Can I use that remote as a 3rd for mounting a grapple to my FEL?
I know opening/closing the grapple won't be as convenient as mounting a 3rd up-front with a toggle on my loader joystick, but is there any issue with running hydraulic hoses from back to front? I was told: 1) should NOT run hoses that long and 2) the rear flow rate wouldn't support grapple operation and that I needed to add a 3rd to my FEL. Is this true, or is someone just trying to sell me an unneeded uprade?
Would gladly trade the inconvenience to save the money if I am not going to damage my hydraulics.
Thanks, PmPLast edited by ppinnick; 02-12-2013 at 12:31 PM. Reason: Missed the word NOT
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02-12-2013, 12:40 PM #2Advertiser
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Re: Can I use my rear remote to operate a grapple?
You can do it either way. It's just cleaner looking and a lot more convenient with a 3rd function valve kit. Check out our EA Wicket Root Grapples if you haven't already!!
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02-12-2013, 12:43 PM #3Gold Member
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Re: Can I use my rear remote to operate a grapple?
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02-12-2013, 12:47 PM #4
Re: Can I use my rear remote to operate a grapple?
Who told you those things? If it was a dealer than go elsewhere! The fluid won't care how long the hoses are, and a grapple cylinder hardly needs any flow at all. 1/4" hoses are all you need, anything larger is a waste of money and space.
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02-12-2013, 12:56 PM #5
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02-12-2013, 12:56 PM #6Advertiser
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Re: Can I use my rear remote to operate a grapple?
Ted Corriher
www.EverythingAttachments.com
1-866-581-5818
A family-owned American Company that also sells quality Made in USA Implements every chance we get! We pride ourselves on giving good product information and putting the needs of our customers above our own!
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02-12-2013, 03:38 PM #7New Member
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02-12-2013, 03:53 PM #8Veteran Member
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Re: Can I use my rear remote to operate a grapple?
Yup what they say ^ - I had mine with long 1/4" hoses from the rear for a long time. Didn't even look bad. Put a 90 pointing down just after the QDs in back and ran the hose under neath along the frame and then followed the loader hoses up from the hydraulic block to the loader valve and down to the bucket cylinders. Nothing hanging down to get caught and out of sight. Used tie wraps to hook them to frame bracing and loader hoses.
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02-12-2013, 07:44 PM #9Bronze Member
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Re: Can I use my rear remote to operate a grapple?
What would control the open and close of the grapple? I have hydraulics on the back of my tractor but no control. Controls are on the hoe for functions.
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02-12-2013, 07:51 PM #10
Re: Can I use my rear remote to operate a grapple?
What you have is called "Power Beyond", a continuous flow of hydraulic oil whenever the tractor is running for things that have their own valves like backhoes and logsplitters.
These guys have a "extra" valve on their machine's to control cylinders on attachments. It's called a "remote" or "SCV"John Deere 4110HST
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