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    Default Re: Maschio H205 - too light duty for JD 5085M?

    Quote Originally Posted by pclausen View Post
    My understanding is that you use a homemade dip stick to check the oil level. I plan on draining the oil after checking the level and then refill with fresh oil. Looks like I should use 85W/140 oil.

    I was able to find the manual online, and it looks like I'm missing the rod for the rear flap:






    Got the part numbers:



    Now I just need to source the parts, or get the JD 681 tiller equivalents.

    I'm sure it will work just fine without that rod, it will just leave a real "fluffy" finish, since there will be no down pressure applied.


    I think I would blow off the rear gate parts, mine has a chain to adjust the gate but I seem to always leave it in the closed position.

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    Default Re: Maschio H205 - too light duty for JD 5085M?

    The rear door is heavy enough that you probably don't need the rod at all. I have mine set so it really doesn't function anyway so try it first. You could actually make that rod--it's just thin metal and I could measure mine.
    Correct on the homemade dipstick--I guess I mentioned it earlier. Drain and refill with the amount you take out (check owner's manual volume) and go from there. Don't overfill or you will blow a gasket on the backside of the side cover. Yup; I did it.
    Tillers are great but you'll need a learning curve to get maximum advantage out of it. This tiller will outlast you, you will almost certainly never break it and if you want to sell it, let me know.

    You'll now need other tools to go with it. Drag harrow, heavy rolling packer and ripper to break through any clay hardpan you leave behind.
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    Default Re: Maschio H205 - too light duty for JD 5085M?

    Quote Originally Posted by pclausen View Post
    My understanding is that you use a homemade dip stick to check the oil level. I plan on draining the oil after checking the level and then refill with fresh oil. Looks like I should use 85W/140 oil.

    I was able to find the manual online, and it looks like I'm missing the rod for the rear flap:



    Got the part numbers:



    Now I just need to source the parts, or get the JD 681 tiller equivalents.

    I'm sure it will work just fine without that rod, it will just leave a real "fluffy" finish, since there will be no down pressure applied.
    I've seen those rod-adjustment's after a few years of use. They're usually at an angle or twist or in a configuration that does not make for easy adjustments! The first time you crawl up over a bank or something that the door drags across - the door won't necessarily bend - but that rod will.

    A chain allows the door to freely rise up over obstacles - moving forward and even to some extent in reverse. That adjustment rod won't...

    A bad experience will give you a bent/broken adjustment rod AND a bent door.

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    Default Re: Maschio H205 - too light duty for JD 5085M?

    Good point guys. I'll not bother with getting a replacement rod, but just rig up a chain so that I can hold the door up/open for cleaning/replacing the tines as needed.

    So went to drain the gear boxes today. Started with the center one (the one I suspected had a leak). Sure enough, when I pulled the filler plug, the level dipstick on it was bone dry.



    I then undid the drain plug, and all that came out was a lot of water and just a tiny bit of oil.



    Replacing the gaskets looks to be a pain, but maybe not? Here's what the exploded view looks like:



    Perhaps all I need to do is to remove the "fake" shaft housing (red arrow) and then undo the bolts (green arrow), that hold the real shaft housing in place, and then just slide the gearbox to the side and replace the gasket?

    I then checked the chain oil, and fortunately, that was in good shape with no water in it. Still want to replace it, but I need to tilt the tiller and remove the shoe to do a good job.

    Not real pleased with the water in the center gear box, but I don't think it was run very long, if at all in that condition. I suspect this tiller has sat for several years and was then put up for sale.
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    Default Re: Maschio H205 - too light duty for JD 5085M?

    That's what I'd do. That should give you enough room to access the gasket. If you need the tiller fairly soon, you might be able to gob some gasket maker right in there with the existing gasket (after cleaning it up). Or wait for a new gasket and then gob some Permatex in there.

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    Default Re: Maschio H205 - too light duty for JD 5085M?

    While you're busy thinking all these things out, find the power curve for your JD and figure out how much HP at various RPM. It's in the old sales info for your tractor or you can do a guestimate off the current line of tractors on the JD website. As a last resort I might have the info as well. Tillers get harmed by too much HP and too much torque and you with a little planning you should be in good shape.

    I would change your oil, run it to warm it up, dump it again and then deal with the gaskets. Just my two cents.
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    Default Re: Maschio H205 - too light duty for JD 5085M?

    Stopped by the JD dealer to pick up the gear oil and drop off a grapple cylinder that needed some work and asked about the gaskets. He was able to cross the part numbers and each gasket was only $1.40 (there are 3 different thicknesses to get just the right amount of lash I suppose). So I figured, what the heck, and ordered the set of 3 for under 5 bucks! I know, I just can't leave well enough alone.

    It was real easy taking it apart, just the pieces I figured would need to come off did. The old gasket (actually 2 of them), were in bad shape and pretty much came apart removing them.

    Gears looks to be in excellent condition. They even painted the inside orange like a kubota.





    While I was taking things apart, I figured I might as well take the rear door off. So should I just put a block over the center and lower my loader down on top until it is straight, or is there a safer way?



    I wasn't able to find the power curve for my tractor, but the previous year models (mine is a 2012) tested @ 53hp at 1640 RPM (EPTO) speed, so I think I should be in good shape.
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    Default Re: Maschio H205 - too light duty for JD 5085M?

    That's a good speed. You don't have to run at 540 pto speed all the time. Sometimes I go much slower to "chop" already tilled ground. Sometimes I go 1 MPH and 540 to bury rocks and trash. You'll figure it out.
    Gears look great. That tiller was not used much.

    Oh, what JD model number is that? I need a couple gaskets as well.
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    Default Re: Maschio H205 - too light duty for JD 5085M?

    John Deere 681. But I gave him the Maschio part numbers directly, and he crossed them that way. If you go by the 681 parts manual, you have to order the entire gasket kit for $80!
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    Default Re: Maschio H205 - too light duty for JD 5085M?

    Quote Originally Posted by pclausen View Post

    While I was taking things apart, I figured I might as well take the rear door off. So should I just put a block over the center and lower my loader down on top until it is straight, or is there a safer way?


    If you use the loader, put thin stop under it in the middle, so it doesn't go too far. You have to go past straight to allow for spring back, it is hard to know how far.

    Here is another way, this is square tubing. It had a slight bend, I put the jack on the high spot, and went down a little more each time, until it came up straight.
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