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    Thanks for the quick reply, been looking for a grapple and had even considered a pallet fork grapple but decided that it would be better to get a true brush grapple and a separate set of forks later. Like you I would rather spend less and buy a lighter version, would rather repair the grapple than damage the fel or tractor. The one I am looking at is around $950 .

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    I am in the final hour on a grapple purchase. Has anyone seen the Ranch Rake by M&M Manufacturing. Check them out at [url=http://www.treeshear.com]. Not sure about prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingo Man View Post
    I am in the final hour on a grapple purchase. Has anyone seen the Ranch Rake by M&M Manufacturing. Check them out at . Not sure about prices.
    I don't like that it has a single lid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingo Man View Post
    I am in the final hour on a grapple purchase. Has anyone seen the Ranch Rake by M&M Manufacturing. Check them out at . Not sure about prices.
    Weight and size selection look good. Opening dimension is only 36". I didn't see pricing. The larger models seem to be In the SS market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandTractor View Post
    I think the curved tines help. They keep roots from sliding off when lifting/curling to break them. Think about how you use your own hand when lifting or pulling on something, you curve your fingers rather than keep them straight. Same idea. I haven't got experience with straight tines but I use the curve in mine so often that I cannot figure out why all grapples aren't made that way. The only thing I can think of is that before CNC cutting it was easier to manufacture straight tines but today manufacturers presumably put a sheet of 3/8" steel in a CNC cutter and they could cut the tines to any shape they want. I noticed yesterday that that WRLong OBG2 gives you an option of either straight or curved tips to the tines. I'd like to know if there are tasks that are better done with straight tines but I've never wished mine were straight.
    I think one of the few places a straight set of lower tines help is for manure, old hay, barn stall cleaning.They allow you to set the tines parallel to the ground drive forward till full, close the grapple- dump and repeat.
    This way you can make a flat floor when set correctly, more easily than with a curved bottom set of tines, also as I have posted before, the tines work much better for this application if they are not tied together near the front
    If you don't have horses and other animal stalls to clean , curved tines are probably the ticket... imo
    Last edited by sd455dan; 04-26-2013 at 01:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 94BULLITT View Post
    I don't like that it has a single lid.
    I am all set with a single lid. The extra thumb is wasted money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sd455dan View Post

    I think one of the few places a straight set of lower tines help is for manure, old hay, barn stall cleaning.They allow you to set the tines parallel to the ground drive foword till full, close the grapple- dump and repeat.
    This way you can make a flat floor when set correctly, more easily than with a curved bottom set of tines, also as I have posted before, the tines work much better for this application if they are not tied together near the front
    If you don't have horses and other animal stalls to clean , curved tines are probably the ticket... imo
    I don't have any experience with manure but I thought people used buckets rather than grapples. But I can certainly see Ho straight tines would be better.

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    Default Re: Which type of grapple is best suited for...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dingo Man View Post
    I am in the final hour on a grapple purchase. Has anyone seen the Ranch Rake by M&M Manufacturing. Check them out at [url=http://www.treeshear.com]. Not sure about prices.
    I really like them because they have the longer lower tines that will help with grabbing something like a log. But when you look at the weight wow those are really heavy way more than would be advised for a CUT. Not sure what size tractor you have but look real hard at the weight.
    The one I bought is in the 600 lb range and that is heavy but thoes ranch rake units look like 900 +.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guesseral View Post

    I really like them because they have the longer lower tines that will help with grabbing something like a log. But when you look at the weight wow those are really heavy way more than would be advised for a CUT. Not sure what size tractor you have but look real hard at the weight.
    The one I bought is in the 600 lb range and that is heavy but thoes ranch rake units look like 900 +.
    I would personally not buy any grapple that weighed more than 400lbs or so. A CUT simply doesn't have the loader or mass to require anything more massive and heavier grapples just reduce your net load capacity. Do the math.

    The Ranch Rake looks a bit overbuilt with 1/2" tines but the only real issue I would have is what looks like a pretty small opening size. If it were 44" or so it would be fine but it looks smaller. I'd also prefer slightly longer bottom tines for digging.

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    Default Re: Which type of grapple is best suited for...

    Well here is my take, having been around a bunch of different ones. If I was putting it on a CUT less than 3500lbs lift it would be 48" with a single thumb, L shaped[like the one I have] If I was going with the clam style [brush grapple] it would have double thumbs just to help with the holding of brush. The clam style works great for brush, clearing small stumps and grappling logs. But it does not carry small things like firewood or dig out larger stuff like the L shaped]ones do. [I have acess to both] With the econo grapple you WILL have to reinforce the top tube if you use it hard but that has been the only weak point. I also added bar grating across the openings to keep sticks from poking through into the tractor and for carrying firewood. I also added 16" boxes on each side for added capacity for firewood. I am either going to mod this grapple to open farther or build a new one, you rap your head on the top thumb loading firewood in it it hurts!! This is just my experience with grapples so don't flame me too bad! CJ
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