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    Anybody know where I can get knives for my Caroni (88 knives) flail.

    Flail Mower, Caroni, Flail Mowers, Caroni Flail Mower | Agri Supply, 53413

    Least expensive I have found will run me about $300 for a new set. Too much for me.

    They are beyond grinding/sharpening

    Thanks

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    Hello Dr. Jay,

    Hope all is well and the swamp rats living on the pasture still run in fear when they
    hear the Caroni.

    The gentleman that runs flailmaster is now stamping the Caroni side slicer knives I believe

    They have neglected to send me a catalog AGAIN, I will have to call them AGAIN.
    Last edited by leonz; 08-15-2013 at 09:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonz View Post
    Hello Dr. Jay,

    Hope all is well and the swamp rats living on the pasture still run in fear when they
    hear the Caroni.

    The gentleman that runs flailmaster is now stamping the Caroni side slicer knives I believe

    They have neglected to send me a catalog AGAIN, I will have to call them AGAIN.
    Thanks. I just spoke with Misty at Flail Master. They are sending a sample blade (knife?).

    Here you go. just click on the digital download link

    Free Catalog

    She is sending me a blade which is 4.7 in long as opposed to the OEM which is 4.5. Don't seea problem. Same 3/8 inch hole. My only concern is the sample blade is I believe 1.25wide whereas the OEM is 1.75. I may not have enough overlap to get a proper cut.

    Not sure I think the sample is MH 386 on page 8 of catalog. $.66 each instaed of $3 each through Agri Supply.

    Do most people just reuse the locknuts etc. I would think so. Agri supply sells all the little bits like nut etc at outragous prices. Glad we have Home Depot.

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    Default Re: Flail mower knives

    Do your blades cut like this or across the flat.

    If your blades are like the first pic where the blades are used in a Y pattern, the width will not matter.

    The bottom of the Y should be the same however as they all add up to give a complete cut.

    In the second picture, the blades is selected for it's width, and they need to be as wide as the original.
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    hardhitter.com is another place.
    KK 72" tiller Rears SPF 72 inch Flail, FL960 knives, Cammond BS72E 6 foot BB,
    HF Quick hitch, RBT3584 rear blade.
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    I got one of the Flailmaster sample knives and it is the exact same as my TM1900 Caroni. Now if they only sold the shackles (clevis).

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    Default Re: Flail mower knives

    Quote Originally Posted by psj12 View Post
    I got one of the Flailmaster sample knives and it is the exact same as my TM1900 Caroni. Now if they only sold the shackles (clevis).
    Hardhitter.com has a lot of shackles
    KK 72" tiller Rears SPF 72 inch Flail, FL960 knives, Cammond BS72E 6 foot BB,
    HF Quick hitch, RBT3584 rear blade.
    assorted two and 4 row diamond bar equipment, all junky.
    20 ft Big Tex 70CH
    Maxey 14000# 16'x83" GN dump trailer
    Oliver 6241 3 bottom rollover moldboard plow
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdEStYYl1Ts
    I like straight furrows
    1960 model 102 Ford 14 inch two bottom rollover plow on my little L3240

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    Quote Originally Posted by psj12 View Post
    I got one of the Flailmaster sample knives and it is the exact same as my TM1900 Caroni. Now if they only sold the shackles (clevis).
    I believe my Caroni has a nut/bolt type arrangement for the blades. yours has clevis and pin ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drjay9051 View Post
    Thanks. I just spoke with Misty at Flail Master. They are sending a sample blade (knife?).

    Here you go. just click on the digital download link

    Free Catalog


    She is sending me a blade which is 4.7 in long as opposed to the OEM which is 4.5. Don't see a problem. Same 3/8 inch hole. My only concern is the sample blade is I believe 1.25wide whereas the OEM is 1.75. I may not have enough overlap to get a proper cut.

    Not sure I think the sample is MH 386 on page 8 of catalog. $.66 each instead of $3 each through Agri Supply.

    Do most people just reuse the locknuts etc. I would think so. Agri supply sells all the little bits like nut etc at outragous prices. Glad we have Home Depot.



    Hello drjay,

    Are the locknuts the all metal type which are difficult to
    turn or are they the nylon insert type of lock nut?

    In either case purchasing boxes of the lock nut from
    Fastenal is an option rather than purchasing by the unit.

    Dont forget that the nuts and bolts are metric as is the
    shackle which holds the Y blade pair.

    About the side slicer length The worry is whether the base of
    the side slicer cutting edge will contact the other side slicer
    of the same length. The shackle hangers are attached on the
    flailmower rotor to allow splicing and overlapping of the cut
    for the Y blades( You purchased the four row finish flail if my memory is correct?)

    I wish flail mower knive attachment was as easy for everyone
    else as it is for me with the spring latches on my Mathews Co. Lawn Genie.

    When you have the flail mower on its back to check for the ability of
    the knive to be mounted on the shackle Please do the following-

    1.Leave the left side slicer attached to the shackel in question

    2. remove the right side slicer from this shackle

    3. install the sample knive in the shackle and let it lie agains the rotor.

    4. take a piece of chalk or a marker and simply dot where the end
    of the side slicer is
    on the rotor. This indicates approximately where the centerline
    is for the tip of the side
    slicer when it is orbiting the rotor.
    a. remove adjacent shackle and the left side slicer of this shackle(facing you)
    install then install the sample knive in its position.

    b. lower the sideslicer to the rotor and eaxmine the area where the chalk mark is where
    you positioned the knive on shackle next to it previously if there is clearance
    between them you should be fine.
    c. The next issue is going to be a bit hardere to determine,YOU have to be sure the
    replacement side slicer from flail master will properly orbit the flailmower and not impact
    the mower hood.

    This can be accomplished by removing the top link connection and
    then permitting the mower to roll back on itself AND allow the
    mower hood to be vertical rather than on its back to check the
    next issue(it avoids spilling oil for the most part-but put a rag
    under the gearbox vent just in case).

    NOW take the side slicer sample knive and place it in the shackle and hold it up horizontally with the side slicers blade tip pointing at the mower shroud The side slicer knive should clear the mowr hood and if not you will not be able to use the sample knive as it will impact the shroud when it starts spinning.

    My feeling about this is that if you wish to replace all the knives you should only replace 44 of them at first and then mount the 44 knives on the two opposing rows of knive hangers with he shackles provided and then mow with it to see if there are any issues with the new slicer knive splicing on the two opposing rows of knive mounting stations.

    My Mathews has a large diameter rotor drum which permits me to have 4 rows of short 3 inch side slicer knives(64 side slicers with slotted hanger holes and to also carry 3 inch dethatching blades with slotted hanger holes) in the knive hangers.
    Last edited by leonz; 08-15-2013 at 12:11 AM. Reason: spelling ,whoopsie!!!

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    Default Re: Flail mower knives

    Quote Originally Posted by psj12 View Post
    I got one of the Flailmaster sample knives and it is the exact same as my TM1900 Caroni. Now if they only sold the shackles (clevis).

    The last time I checked on this issue the wire rope suppliers for metric fishing gear for trawlers have the same shackles but the price is almost identical.
    Last edited by leonz; 08-15-2013 at 09:57 AM.

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