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    Platinum Member allen in texas's Avatar
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    Default It's just sad... (flail content)

    When you start shredding 25 acres and you look back after your first pass and see the tiny swath you just cut with your 6 foot flail.
    You think, "This is gonna take forever". Good thinking time though.
    KK 72" tiller Rears SPF 72 inch Flail, FL960 knives, Cammond BS72E 6 foot BB,
    HF Quick hitch, RBT3584 rear blade.
    assorted two and 4 row diamond bar equipment, all junky.
    20 ft Big Tex 70CH
    Maxey 14000# 16'x83" GN dump trailer
    Oliver 6241 3 bottom rollover moldboard plow
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdEStYYl1Ts
    I like straight furrows
    1960 model 102 Ford 14 inch two bottom rollover plow on my little L3240

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    Default Re: It's just sad... (flail content)

    What, no pictures????

    But yeah, a 6' mower of any kind is a bit small for 25 acres

    Largest job I ever did was 13 acres with my 6' hog. Took about 6-7 hours IIRC. With loading and unloading tractor and drive time, it was an all day job. Couldnt imagine a job taking 2-3 days......Thats like forever
    ".........there is only one way to find out."
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    Default Re: It's just sad... (flail content)

    It always gives me a perspective of how large the land is v. us human beings. I sort of like the "quiet time" on the tractor (like you said) and the obvious sense of accomplishment each time a new row is mowed. I will always listen to the Rodney Akins song "A man On His Tractor" at least once during the process.

    MoKelly

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    Platinum Member allen in texas's Avatar
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    Default Re: It's just sad... (flail content)

    My largest job was 40 acres. I had two tractors on this job, both with 6 footers. It was a long way to get to the job, a 4 hour drive, it took 8 hours to shred and 4 more hours to get home. It was a LONG day but it was financially acceptable so I guess I would do it again. Yes a 6 footer is too small for a regular diet of that type of shredding but those jobs for me are few and far between. Most jobs I do are 10 acres or less and I can do those quickly so 6 foot is what I will stay with. Wouldn't pay out (I don't think) to go with a larger shredder. When I first started doing this and submitting bids, I cut my own throat pretty regular so I just started charging by the hour. I have finally learned how much I can cut per hour so I will bid jobs now and ususaly I'm pretty close and actually, I make a bit more money than I did by going hourly. I have a couple coming up that I can do in 40 minutes each. That's loading, travel, unloading, cutting, loading back up and going home. $100. It a good gig. I'm almost ashamed to charge $100 but a fella has to have a minimum just for the trouble of getting his rig there.
    KK 72" tiller Rears SPF 72 inch Flail, FL960 knives, Cammond BS72E 6 foot BB,
    HF Quick hitch, RBT3584 rear blade.
    assorted two and 4 row diamond bar equipment, all junky.
    20 ft Big Tex 70CH
    Maxey 14000# 16'x83" GN dump trailer
    Oliver 6241 3 bottom rollover moldboard plow
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdEStYYl1Ts
    I like straight furrows
    1960 model 102 Ford 14 inch two bottom rollover plow on my little L3240

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    Default Re: It's just sad... (flail content)

    I will second what you last said. I've being doing some tractor work on the side for a while now but this year I "went legal"; license, insurance, incorporated, business account, the whole nine. The small jobs <2acres were killing me especially; those with a 30-40minute drive one way. I had to implement the $100 minimum as well. Otherwise I'd be gone for 3 hours and clear $20. Now at least I clear $35-40.

    I have been pretty busy too, with a lot of 16 hour days mixed in. I am looking hard at an 80-100hp tractor and batwing for next year but that presents a whole new set of problems. I would need a bigger trailer, CDL, and possibly a bigger truck.

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    Default Re: It's just sad... (flail content)

    40 acres with 2 6' cutters in 8 hours is pretty impressive. You must have been hauling @$$
    ".........there is only one way to find out."
    "Ok, hold my beer and watch this.........."


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    Platinum Member allen in texas's Avatar
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    Default Re: It's just sad... (flail content)

    Quote Originally Posted by LD1 View Post
    40 acres with 2 6' cutters in 8 hours is pretty impressive. You must have been hauling @$$
    I wrote about that job here on the forum. It was a comparison between my flail and the rotary cutter. Yes we were "hauling *****" and we took quite a beating too. Most of it was easy cutting so we could go fast. The only limiting factor (to a point of course) was how much of a beating we were willing to endure.
    KK 72" tiller Rears SPF 72 inch Flail, FL960 knives, Cammond BS72E 6 foot BB,
    HF Quick hitch, RBT3584 rear blade.
    assorted two and 4 row diamond bar equipment, all junky.
    20 ft Big Tex 70CH
    Maxey 14000# 16'x83" GN dump trailer
    Oliver 6241 3 bottom rollover moldboard plow
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdEStYYl1Ts
    I like straight furrows
    1960 model 102 Ford 14 inch two bottom rollover plow on my little L3240

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    Default Re: It's just sad... (flail content)

    Each cutter mowing 20 acres in 8 hours, 2.5 acres an hour. Yea, I imagine you took a beating unless it was golf course smooth.
    ".........there is only one way to find out."
    "Ok, hold my beer and watch this.........."


    Ford 5500 Backhoe
    Kubota L3400GST W/LA463 FEL
    2005 Dodge 3500 4x4 Diesel
    8N Rebuilt and restored
    Bushhog 306
    3 Homemade wood hauling trailers
    Dolmar 6400 84cc ported
    Sachs-Dolmar 120SI Ported
    (4) Sachs-Dolmar 116SI Ported
    Dolmar PS540
    Sachs-Dolmar 115i
    Sachs-Dolmar 117
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    Default Re: It's just sad... (flail content)

    Quote Originally Posted by allen in texas View Post
    When you start shredding 25 acres and you look back after your first pass and see the tiny swath you just cut with your 6 foot flail.
    You think, "This is gonna take forever". Good thinking time though.
    A son of the gentleman who built our house said his dad called the tractor his "Thinking Machine".
    Now I understand - it's the only place I can get a moments peace.
    That's the problem with trouble.
    It always starts out as such fun."
    - Randall Brown

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    Default Re: It's just sad... (flail content)

    What I always wonder is how much overlap one really has when mowing. I mean, on my mower, it is 90". But I constantly find myself using the front guide wheel (my mower mounts in the front) as a line up, thus effectively loosing 12 inches off my mowing width. So for every 7 passes I have lost one pass. Adds up. Maybe it is different for a 3pt mower?
    Power-Trac 1850, grapple, hoe, 90" mower, 72" box blade

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