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    Default Ford New Holland 2120 Back Hoe frame mount questions

    I would really like an e-manual for my Ford New Holland 2120 with frame mounted back hoe. If anyone knows where I can get one, please let me know. I am not trying to avoid paying the costs of a real manual, I just know an e-manual will serve me better.

    I want to detach the frame mounted backhoe, so I can transport the tractor on a 7k gvw 18' trailer.
    I need to know where to connect the hoses that get disconnected. Yesterday I noticed near the hose that attaches near the engine a covered "stub", perhaps this is where the hose gets connected to, after disconnecting the back hoe hose?
    If so, then I would need to know how to deal with the hose left open near the back of the tractor. Perhaps this is the return hose and can be left open?

    Thanks for any help

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    Default Re: Ford New Holland 2120 Back Hoe frame mount questions

    Look at this thread .

    http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/n...d-backhoe.html

    Post # 2 is my reply with pictures were I believe you are talking about . Based upon your info above , I am assuming you have never had the backhoe off . Is the 2nd hose from the Backhoe attached under the seat ??

    The rear connection is the return and is left unconnected to any thing . That Front connection Will connect to that covered stub . Otherwise no power / lift on the 3 point . ( Assuming it is like my set up , when connected to B.H. , the 3 point is disabled ) .

    Warning : If You never have took it off , The Main thing to Remember is , Never Disconnect either of the 2 hoses from the B.H. with the tractor running . This will likely blow out the pump if you do .


    My Procedure for removing is this :

    1) Position tractor were B.H. is to be placed
    2) Loosen and remove top link , ( Assuming it is being used )
    3) Remove the 2 pins that are located at the front of the subframe , basically below / slightly forward of your feet , 1 pin on each side .
    4) Lower Stabilizers to slightly lift backhoe in the rear bracket that is below the rear pto shaft , ( Again , Assuming that the B.H. had a subframe mount on tractor )
    5) Using Dipper and bucket , Extend boom slightly , then lower dipper till bucket contacts ground then watch forward has you apply pressure . As you push down on ground , the forward frame of the B.H. were you removed the pin's , will lower towards ground . Needs to be within 4" to 6" of ground at most , for tractor to clear when driving off .
    6) Slightly move tractor forward a few inch's making sure to watch hoses do not get tight . If B.H. appears to be still attached , you may need to adjust either the stabilizers or dipper to take the weight off the tractor and more onto the B.H.
    7) If tractor moves and B.H. does not , move forward roughly 6" , Shut tractor OFF . Disconnect rear hose . Disconnect Front hose by loader , then connect the coupler that you removed the B.H. hose from to the very connection that I Believe you referred to , ( See my above link and reply in that other thread with pictures ) .
    8) AFTER the hoses are disconnected for B.H. and the before mentioned hose is connected to that coupler , Then start tractor and slowly pull off B.H. . Now you can place blocks under the rear of B.H. and release pressure on the Dipper and Stabilizers .

    Although it sounds Daunting , It really is not . Been doing it for 7 years on my tc30 with a 757C B.H. , Takes about 5 minutes to disconnect or reconnect it .

    Attaching is reverse , with 2 things to remember . Tractor off when connecting hoses and I put very little pressure on the dipper , boom when hooking up the top link . Basically it is only slightly tighter than hand tight .

    Read the above thread , study the pictures , I may be talking about a whole different set up ??

    Fred H.

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    Default Re: Ford New Holland 2120 Back Hoe frame mount questions

    Quote Originally Posted by FredH View Post
    Read the above thread , study the pictures , I may be talking about a whole different set up ??

    Fred H.
    I think this sounds about right, and is exactly what I hoped for, thank you very much.
    It sounds like the rear connector (under the seat area) is left unconnected, is that right?
    Earlier today, I did find a reference to using dust cover for this (under seat) presumed return connection. If it is the return, the tractor can be run with it open.

    Thank you!

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    Default Re: Ford New Holland 2120 Back Hoe frame mount questions

    Yes on the return under the seat . Just disconnect B.H. and leave it . Mine does not even have a dust cover for that one , somewhat protected by the seat and fender were as the front lower one is exposed to dust and debris when B.H. is attached .

    I have never really looked for a e-manual , Think I have a paper manual , but tractor was new and B.H. was used at the dealer thus when I purchased tractor , bought the used B.H. at same time , so not even sure I have a manual . Never really needed it , Just grease all the zerks on a regular basis and Wing it from there .

    Fred H.

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    Default Re: Ford New Holland 2120 Back Hoe frame mount questions

    Quote Originally Posted by FredH View Post
    Yes on the return under the seat . Just disconnect B.H. and leave it . Mine does not even have a dust cover for that one , somewhat protected by the seat and fender were as the front lower one is exposed to dust and debris when B.H. is attached .

    I have never really looked for a e-manual , Think I have a paper manual , but tractor was new and B.H. was used at the dealer thus when I purchased tractor , bought the used B.H. at same time , so not even sure I have a manual . Never really needed it , Just grease all the zerks on a regular basis and Wing it from there .

    Fred H.
    I pulled it off without any issues, just a matter of tweaking the dipper and stabilizers until it slid off.

    Have you ever strapped down the back hoe to a flatbed and towed it separately? My trailer is only 7k gvw, that is why I pulled the back hoe off. I will be upgrading it. I am thinking I can use the front end loader on the dozer to put the backhoe on the trailer, chain it down, then use the tractor front end loader to take it off. Sound plausible?

    Thanks so much for the information on disconnecting the back hoe!

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