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    Default Weight position on PHD

    It's been a long while since I posted here but you know how it goes , I was busy.
    I am getting ready to put in about a hundred mixed tees and plants and will be using my phd with a 6 inch auger to break into the hard dry clay.
    After the wet season it usually works ok, but for the other 9/ 10 months of the year the auger goes in about 4 inches then just grinds round. So I have to add water and soak the hole for a day or so and that will get me down another few inches each time.
    But when I put a 8 foot steel tube on the end of the PHD boom and i swing off that I can force the auger down to 3 feet or so in just 10 minutes.
    Extra weight seems to be the answer for my need, but I only got the PHD this year and won't drill holes in it to add weight. Plus adding weight ontop of the boom seems a little dangerous on the rough ground I have to drive over.
    Has anyone added extra weight on the lift arms at the base of the A frame supporting the PHD boom?
    Seems like it should work, but I can't see where it has been done already.
    Any thoughts?

    Mick

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    Default Re: Weight position on PHD

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    A better idea is hydraulic power down on the PHD. More controllable, less work, not terribly difficult to fabricate.

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    Default Re: Weight position on PHD

    For that many trees and shrubs you may be better off renting a larger auger and skid steer for a day. Probably take less than a minute per hole and a lot safer. A larger hole may improve the chances for the new plantings too.

    PHPauls suggestion for a downforce kit is another good route to take.

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    Default Re: Weight position on PHD

    Thanks for the ideas I will see what I can come up with.

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    Default Re: Weight position on PHD

    I do the same thing and use my PHD for tree planting.
    Instead of using the auger I built a bit out of an old rim(maybe around 24") some pipe and I bought a replaceable auger tip from Tractor Supply that is threaded and welded a nut into the center of a piece of pipe and threaded it in. I then used ripper teeth from my box blade welded slots into the rim so I could pin 4 of them in across from each other 2 on the inside of the rim and 2 outside. Then, the old lawn mower blades I welded on the center pipe at various angles downward. It cuts the dirt up very well but if the dirt is moist and sticky it can turn the clay into round balls so as I am drilling I take saw dust, leaves, and wood chips and throw them in to help keep the soil broke up and loamy. (Note: grass clippings do not work well as an amendment as they just catch on everything and do not mix in well)

    Just an idea if you have a good amount to plant.
    I know it has saved my back a lot of dirt work.
    Necessity breeds ingenuity.
    And when your not sure weld it twice

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    Default Re: Weight position on PHD

    I like the sound of that

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    Default Re: Weight position on PHD

    EMB5530, a most interesting idea. Any pictures/videos of that monster?

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    Default Re: Weight position on PHD

    I can go and try to get some today. Currently I am building another toy for the tractor but I just used the tree auger about 2 weeks ago so I have some holes that are fairly fresh to show the resulting work also.
    Necessity breeds ingenuity.
    And when your not sure weld it twice

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    Default Re: Weight position on PHD

    That would be great. Looking forward to the pix. Thanks!

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    Default Re: Weight position on PHD

    Here are some pics of the PHD/ Tree planter and some pics of the soil afterwards.

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    Necessity breeds ingenuity.
    And when your not sure weld it twice

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