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    Quote Originally Posted by txdon View Post
    The rake grapple with its wider opening did move a large pile of Yaupon easier with one large bite.
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    In feel so validated, I have been a fan of a large opening on a grapple for a long time. The large opening on a grapple does help grab bigger loads for sure, more so than extra width. I find it interesting that the larger opening of the Rake grapple offset the L bottom's larger lower teeth, allowing it to grab a bigger load. That Rake does have long lower teeth, more than some Rake grapples, which helps it tremendously.

    What make and models are these grapples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomSeller View Post
    I also think the Faver design is nice. The lack of cross brace tube reminds me of my Wildkat Deep Penetration grapple. You can use the tips more effectively to penetrate into tree limbs, etc. when picking things up. Faver uses a high quality steel that allows them that long of a lower tine without as much danger of bending the tines which I think is the real reason mild steel grapples have the cross tube out front. I like their narrow 31" model. The upper tines cross over the lower tines in the attached image, making for a very small 12.5" holding area compared to most L bottom grapples.
    Tom, I was thinking of going narrow before the shootout and nothing we did changed my mind own that. My Yaupon are the understory in the woods and are not as thick as we worked on. But 31", wow that is narrow I was at least thinking 48"-54". My quick attack is 48" wide it may not fit. What size tractor do you have?
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    My two major task,would be to move old hay piles to wash outs located at other areas on place and the other cleaning up behind my dozer. It would also be nice to remove yaupons and maybe pick up a 4x5 round bale.

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    Wow Don - that Faver is nice -- I really like the tines being so open ...I would definitely get the LT - the 3" doesn't sound like much but sure it would make a difference. This is a great joining of the 2 types we played with -- best of both worlds.
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    Those Faver grapples are sweet but awful heavy for a cut. My WR long grapple weighs around 500 I think and it's plenty heavy for my tractor. Now if I traded my MX in on a m7060 or m9960 or somethin the Faver would be at the top of my list!

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    Quote Originally Posted by txdon View Post

    Tom, I was thinking of going narrow before the shootout and nothing we did changed my mind own that. My Yaupon are the understory in the woods and are not as thick as we worked on. But 31", wow that is narrow I was at least thinking 48"-54". My quick attack is 48" wide it may not fit. What size tractor do you have?
    I have 3 tractors that I run the grapples on, 52 HP, 60 HP and 85 HP. I already have 2 wide grapples, a 72" Rake and a 74" L bottom. I have a neighbor's 48" that he leaves at my place (he has one of my hay rakes so it is a trade right now). But he has been talking about borrowing it back. So I have the wide need covered, and would like something narrow for tree/rock removal if I don't have access to the 48". To me grapples are very handy tools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomSeller View Post
    What make and models are these grapples?
    I'm not completely sure Mike will have to respond to this question.
    Last edited by txdon; 12-07-2013 at 12:40 AM. Reason: unsure of make of grapple
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    Quote Originally Posted by jinman View Post
    Don, Mike, and Ron, your grapple tests on grubbing up youpon are pretty specific. I'm thinking a complete test would be how easily you can pick up a log or felled tree with a stump. In most cases, you'll find yourself in the woods without a lot of maneuver room. Though both grapple types can grasp the center of the trunk, you may have serious problems moving the tree out of the woods because you are wider than most spacing between trees. By grabbing the end of the tree or stump end and dragging, you can maneuver through the woods to get to an open space. Of course, you can buck the tree into manageable lengths and get it out, but a bucket grapple can be slid under the tree's end and the jaws closed down to allow you to end skid the tree to a clear area. Clearly, the best grapple depends on the job. Buying for the 80% use is a wise decision.

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    Default Re: Texas Grapple Shootout

    Don,
    I like that Faver model. I would like to try the 72 inch one. It is heavy duty. But seems a little thin in the vertical supports. Also, remember that cross tube brace on the tines on other grapples allow them to float at a given depth. They won't dig deep. The one you linked will dig deep when a tire runs over a bump. The long 1 inch thick tines are massive. But they are long in the "tooth".

    Just this morning I saw a massive 4WD logging "pay loader" with a 10 foot grapple on front with 1 inch tines. You guessed it.......one of the tines was bent 45 degrees. So you'll have to be careful turning with the tines contacting dirt, as one might catch on a root and over stress your loader arms, if not the grapple itself. Overall all........I give it a .
    hugs, Brandi

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    Brandi, that was a concern I also had. Even though the long tine ANBO could dig at a variable depths, would I need a cross bar to limit the depth, and what should that depth be?
    TXDon

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