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  1. #11
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    Default Re: new 410 loader

    Thanks for the help. I've been thinking about doing the same thing. I can't find any flat-backed weld-on grab hooks, just hooks with eyes or clevis pins. It's also hard to find any high-grade hooks (mostly what I see is grade 40 stuff). I did notice today that the grab hooks on chain binders are grade 70. So looks like my only local buying option is to get a chain binder, cut off the hooks and throw the binder away. Then cut off the eye and grind flat before welding. I'm thinking of welding the hooks to the top of a 4" x 2" x 1/4" angle iron (the full length of the bucket). Then I will use 4 grade 8 bolts to bolt this assembly to the top of the bucket. I will back the bolts on the inside bucket edge by using a piece of 3" x 1/4" flat steel the full length of the bucket. Seems like this would be easy to do and would really reinforce the top of the bucket for lifting.


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    Default Re: new 410 loader

    Jim,

    You can find different grades of hooks on-line here.McMaster-Carr

    Grinding and welding a clevis style hook is the way mine were done. Check this thread on ways for mounting hooks.

    Be cautious when lifting or pulling with the corners of the bucket. That can upset your balance real quick. Especially if your not ballasted correctly. I've got the weight box to use too. Works good especially for the real heavy lifts and with my clamp-on loader forks. Filled it with crushed stone. Plus removable wheel weights, 120 lbs each wheel. No liquid ballast.

    Your ideas on ballast sound good. You find out quick what works best when and where. Tire air pressures should be near max in the front too.

    What size bucket did you get? A bucket level indicator? Did they install the safety latch?

    DFB


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    Default Re: new 410 loader

    Thanks for the tips and the links. I'll check them out. I plan to install a grab hook on each side of the bucket in line with the lift arms, but I'd never lift anything heavy from only one hook. I'm thinking it would be best to drape a chain from both hooks and hook to the center of that chain with a large anchor-style slip link to lift single line loads. I ended up with the 49" bucket. I actually ordered the 54" bucket but my dealer installed the wrong one. He said to keep it for awhile and if I wanted to go to the 54", he would trade me in with full credit. I'm not sure now. The 49" bucket is 1" wider than my rear wheels, seems to be a nice size that doesn't stick out too far beyond the tractor. Nice and manageable. But my boxblade is 54" so I'm wondering??? I did get the bucket level indicator. I'm not sure what you're referring to regarding the safety latch, but it sounds like I had better find out. I have the lever that disconnects the front loader frame plate from the front bumper. Is this the safety latch, or is there something else?


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    Default Re: new 410 loader

    Could you tell me about your removeable wheel weights? Cost? Installation? are they one piece units weighing 120 pounds? Wow, sounds like time to revisit my chiropractor.


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    Default Re: new 410 loader

    The JD wheel weights are 60 pounds each and you can use up to 3 per each rear wheel. Installation isn't too hard. They make a big difference in the ride and stability of the tractor.


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    Default Re: new 410 loader

    Jim,

    The latch is to insure the loader frame plate doesn't fall off of the bumper.(see attachment) The way I understand it there were some instances where that had happened. My latch came direct from Deere a couple of months after I had the tractor, even though they had known about it several months before I bought the tractor. Lately I've seen them installed on new tractor/loader combos on dealer's lots. I haven't had any indication of that happening or experienced that problem and I've really given my loader a workout moving tons of sand fill, bulldozed stumps, large stones, and log butts. I'd like to think it was only because of an incorrect loader setup or improper attachment by the operator. Check the mounting bolt torque like the loader operator's manual recommends, especially those that attach to the engine case. I had few loose ones after a while.

    I have the 53" bucket. There is not much difference in struck capacity. Only 1.8 cubic ft.

    As for those JD wheel weights. I talked about them with RobS in this post. All you need to know is in the full thread. There has been alot of info on wheelweights posted here on TBN.

    DFB

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    Have you thought about tow hooks for 4X4 trucks. Bolt on w ith 1/2 bolts back up with flat metal or large washers. tracto r supply for about $8


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    Hey guys,

    I've been following this post to get some ideas on how to mount my grab hooks but before I do that, I'd like to get some opinions on how to go about straightening out the top lip of my loader bucket. The previous owner put a whoop -d- do in her about the size of a lemon. I have torches and had given thought to heating the metal and pounding the dimple out. Any suggestions.

    Russ


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    Default Re: new 410 loader

    The heat will help but don't over do it or you might take the temper out of the metal.
    Can you re enforce the back of where your going to heat than hit w/a piece of metal,somethings that help.

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    Russ, that's the only way I'd know how to do it; put the torch to it and use a big hammer. I suppose Thomas is right about the possibility of taking the temper out, but on the top lip, I don't think I'd worry about it.

    Bird

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