Small farm hay balers

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tractorbynet just sent out an article about small farm hay balers. I was really excited about them until I googled one at looked at the price. Starting at $13,000!!!! Think of how much hay could one buy for $13,000. The unit would probably be worn out before it paid for itself on a 3 acre pasture. Add on operating cost and support equipment... Definitely just a toy for rich folks with more money than sense. Anyone got any affordable options for making and handling hay on small acreages?
 
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I totally agree. I read the article and went to the baler web site and was shocked. I guess I will still be going to auctions to find an affordable older square baler.
 
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tractorbynet just sent out an article about small farm hay balers. I was really excited about them until I googled one at looked at the price. Starting at $13,000!!!! Think of how much hay could one buy for $13,000. The unit would probably be worn out before it paid for itself on a 3 acre pasture. Add on operating cost and support equipment... Definitely just a toy for rich folks with more money than sense. Anyone got any affordable options for making and handling hay on small acreages?

I used a $2000 Massey Ferguson 124 baler (small squares, two twine) on my 10 acre place. Bought it from a seller nearby who had used it the previous day to bale 30 acres. All I had to do was rebuild the slip clutch (not difficult) and perform normal maintenance.

There are plenty of similar JD and NH balers listed on eBay and Craigslist (which is where I found that 124).

Good luck.
 
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I have looked at those type of balers for a long time. They are definitely a niche' item unfortunately they are a very pricey niche item. I really liked the idea I could put them on a regular landscape trailer and be able mow little areas here and there. Plus they take up such little space. I have a lot of hilly terrain and trying to control 800# behind me seems a lot more feasible than a 3600# square baler.

These things are really popular in every part of the world it seems except in the USA. There's only two dealers of them in the USA I found. Tractor Tools Direct and Small Farm Innovations. It seems there's a huge interest in them but the price is just out of everyone's reach when you can find an old IH 46 or JD 14T for a grand or two.
 
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Cougs' I sent you a PM about a baler I have. bjr
 
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I really want to like this small baler, but it's $9,000 and here are the specs:
"This mini-baler produces a 40 to 60 pound (depending on moisture of hay and how tight you roll it) bale measuring 21” x 23”, every 60 seconds or so."

So let's call it 50 lbs a minute. This is with hay that has already been windrowed. I think with a wagon, a hand rake and a pitchfork I could gather 50 lbs a minute of windrowed hay -- and it would already be on the wagon, I wouldn't have to go back into the field and pick up bales. I'm not sure it would be any more work than pushing a 2-wheeler with a baler.

Check out this Youtube video of a guy using a buck rake (hay sweep) on his FEL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCrFrzE8qDU

He said he did five acres in two hours of raking. I get about 2.5 tons/acre on the first cutting so that's about 200 lbs per minute. He said "50 or 60 bales worth" which would be 500 lb bales at that rate so I may even be underestimating.

My take is that unless you're in the hay business you're better off gathering it loose and storing it in stacks.
 
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That hay sweep looks like the ticket. Gonna have to try that. I wonder if wind rowing is really necessary?
 
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That hay sweep looks like the ticket. Gonna have to try that. I wonder if wind rowing is really necessary?

I built a sweep like that last summer, I'm building version 2.0 for this summer. The hay needs to be raked up for the sweep to work. I tried sweeping it where it lay after cutting and the sweep did a poor job of picking it up. It needs a certain density and cohesion for the sweep to work.
 
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I'd like to weigh in on this issue. There is "expensive" and there is "too expensive". Yes, compact hay equipment is expensive, compared to the out-of-pocket cost of raking it up and piling it by hand. But "too expensive"? Well, that all depends on the job you want to do and the tractor you want to do it with. You can't run a conventional square baler or round baler with a compact tractor, period. Yes, you might have the horsepower, but you will not have the weight to operate it safely. And you will not be taking a conventional square baler through a 6 foot gate. You will not be baling between tree rows in an orchard. You will not be baling areas along creeks and buildings that otherwise are maintenance headaches.

Another issue is hay quality. As about anyone will tell you, if your hay field is less than 10 acres, you will have a heck of a time getting anyone to come bale it for you. If they ever do show up, it will generally be way too late and the hay quality will be poor. People who buy compact hay equipment want to bale on their own so they have good quality hay to feed their animals.

The most important issue is tractor size. Let's face it, people love their compact tractors. They are easier to use, easier to store, and use less fuel. A lot of people don't want to own a 40+ horsepower tractor. Compact hay equipment brings haymaking to even subcompact tractor owners.

And just because a piece of equipment is smaller, that does not mean it is lower quality or is proportionally cheaper to produce. Think Mini Cooper versus Ford Econoline van. You don't choose between those two based on price, so why would you do that with hay equipment?

So is a mini round baler too expensive? Is a Harley too expensive? Is an Iphone too expensive? It all depends on your point of view I suppose.
 
 
 
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