6 Way Blade For Utility Tractor

[Verticaltrx]

Yes. With a loader, you're creating a horizontal thrust and twisting motion into the transmission tunnel causing compression and bending moments at the rear axle.

With a sub-frame mounted unit, the sub-frame is attached to the rear axle and forces pushed through the blade are transmitted as torque against the axle tubes and sheer against the mounting bolts at a much lower and straighter line to the plane of work. It's not all that much different than the loads placed on the machine when pulling from the draw bar, and we all know that's how tractors are intended to be used.

Indeed, the older Degelman units actually used the draw bar mount/pin as the rear attachment point and where the pushing force was applied. The front mount simply held the sub frame up. Dozer blades on a tractor loader, especially ones that angle/tilt are a bad idea IMO.

 

[MMagis]

It's not all that much different than the loads placed on the machine when pulling from the draw bar, and we all know that's how tractors are intended to be used.

It's night and day different. But not worth arguing about.

 

[MORRISONSTEEL]

If you really want a 6 way on a compact piece I would look at skid steers. As far as forestry items for an entry level 5xxxe series tractor you are probably hosed, that chassis really wasn't designed for that environment so you probably wont find sweeps to fit that model (but should be easy enough to build on a oos tractor). As far as the blade pictured earlier from India or wherever you will probable have to go there to get one, does not appear to be a US marketed item. Another option could be a front mounted three point hitch with a fully hyd rear blade with the moldboard turned around, but I don't know if there is an outlet for front three points for this chassis. LaFaorge is probably the biggest outlet for them (also marketed through Deere).

 

[Daves3032E]

If you really want a 6 way on a compact piece I would look at skid steers. As far as forestry items for an entry level 5xxxe series tractor you are probably hosed, that chassis really wasn't designed for that environment so you probably wont find sweeps to fit that model (but should be easy enough to build on a oos tractor). As far as the blade pictured earlier from India or wherever you will probable have to go there to get one, does not appear to be a US marketed item. Another option could be a front mounted three point hitch with a fully hyd rear blade with the moldboard turned around, but I don't know if there is an outlet for front three points for this chassis. LaFaorge is probably the biggest outlet for them (also marketed through Deere).

Well check it out, they have a front 3pt, look here:

Laforge Front 3-Point Systems | GreenLink St25/5E

 

[Daves3032E]

Combine the front hitch, pto kit, and a 3 pt snow thrower and you could do some pretty quick snow removal.

Laforge Front 3-Point Systems | Front PTO

 

[Daves3032E]

Just wanted to share that Leon Mfg makes a 6 way blade that will fit my 5045E (delivered on 11/14) for the price of.... List price: $17,386 +freight. Cash price: $15,900 delivered (promotional pricing is what the quote listed). That was with a 10' blade which I think is way over sized for my machine.

So, there are options out there if you wanted to spend the money.

 

[lungdoc]

What else do you need the tractor for? Just wondering if a different type of equipment might be better if forestry-type work is what you have in mind. eg skid steer, skidder, or dozer? Backhoe with a thumb to use hoe to move/dig stumps/debris maybe? I know from some experience as we built a lot of roads and clearings in terrain probably fairly similar and although a big dozer in rocky/stumpy terrain can be useful an excavator is a much better tool - if you push on a stump ad it doesn't move with a blade your options are limited but with an excavator or backhoe you can attack it in different ways.

 

[Daves3032E]

What else do you need the tractor for? Just wondering if a different type of equipment might be better if forestry-type work is what you have in mind. eg skid steer, skidder, or dozer? Backhoe with a thumb to use hoe to move/dig stumps/debris maybe? I know from some experience as we built a lot of roads and clearings in terrain probably fairly similar and although a big dozer in rocky/stumpy terrain can be useful an excavator is a much better tool - if you push on a stump ad it doesn't move with a blade your options are limited but with an excavator or backhoe you can attack it in different ways.

I use my tractors for snow removal, yard cleanup, log handling, pulling stuck vehicles, load/unload pickup truck, garden work, rough mowing (a buddy lets me borrow his flail mower), move my firewood bins, minor land clearing, light logging, and I'm sure there is a bunch more that I'm forgetting.

Not even remotely interested in a skid steer or CTL. Just this past weekend I was driving the 5045E through mud/water that was up to the axles.

Skidder... would love to have one, but I think the uses would be pretty limited to pulling bigger trees. Then there is the transporting of it as I don't have a trailer wide enough to haul one (at least they all seem fairly large). My trailer is 80" wide and 16 ft long (gooseneck dump).

Dozer... Would like one of these as well. I think I would take a dozer over a skidder. A 350C would be nice I think.

Backhoe... Not too interested, but would like a mini excavator. I watched a guy go through some woods in a medium sized excavator and I was impressed with how he could clear a path and sort/clean up the tops (this was a year after it was logged).

Right now the stump bucket does an OK job at getting the few (about 20 stumps so far) out that I needed out of the way so I had room to work.