Replace a boxblade, disc, and rake with this?

geneP · 03-08-2001, 03:57 PM

I found this, and thought it was revelant to the recent posts on blades and rakes. Anyone seen one work?

http://www.tr3rake.com/index.asp

markcg2000 · 03-08-2001, 04:03 PM

Looks like one heck of a rake, and maybe it could replace a disc, but I don't see how it could replace the blade function of a boxblade.

Any idea what these might cost?

mark

Thomas · 03-08-2001, 07:01 PM

Gene,
Maybe I miss something about that new unit.
How does one pull the soil to another location,also what about hard soil {rocks etc..}use.
Indeed it look great for finishing landscaping and well built.

If you should get the video let us know more about it.....okay.

Thomas..NH [img]/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif[/img]

TraderMark · 03-08-2001, 08:10 PM

geneP.....
what a coincidence! I stumbled across the info on the TR3 rake just last night myself.
One site I saw had some prices and even though it looks like a great implement, it was far too pricey for me.

Take a look here....http://www.aufait.net/~tolleyt/blue-ridge.html and see what you think.
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by TraderMark on 03/08/01 08:13 PM (server time).</FONT></P>

Alan L. · 03-08-2001, 11:16 PM

Way too pricey!!!

gmason · 03-09-2001, 08:05 AM

Looks like they priced it with some "new math", based on each piece

Rake +
Box blade +
Dragbar +
Pulveriser
=
$3000
Ouch!

cowboydoc · 03-09-2001, 08:18 AM

Why do these guys price these things so dang high? I mean they can't have more than a few hundred dollars in materials. Wouldn't it make more sense to price and sell quantity rather than selling a few and scalping the person buying it? I bet even at under a thousand dollars they would still make a good profit and they would sell way more. You see this on all these implements for compact tractors, prices sky high! I just go to farm sales and buy mine for a tenth the price. I probably don't have $1k in my disc, rake, plow, harrow, box blade, and sprayer for the compact tractor.

RobS · 03-09-2001, 08:43 AM

Pricing is all about marketing. First-to-market with a new innovation will always price high to recover tooling and development costs. If the innovation catches on a competitor will likely copy it and sell cheaper as he didn't have to do all the development work. That will force the first guy to lower his prices and erode his margins. His only protection is through patents.

This is exactly what happens in pharmacueticals (sp?) (as I'm sure you're aware). Only difference is the magnitude of the development costs for a new drug are so many times higher that that for a new farm implement (or car parts in my case). Then the public pressures the company to lower the price on the latest life saving drug which only eats into that companies ability to continue further drug developments. Patent protection exists for a reason!

Sorry, I ramble [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]

cowboydoc · 03-09-2001, 09:07 AM

Rob,
Yes you are completely right about drug companies. I think they scalp people as well. Difference is that people need medications at one time or another and don't need tractor implements as a matter of life and death and that is where I think the drug companies are all the more wrong. I could tell you stories about those guys that would make your hair stand on end. But enough of that. I certainly understand about marketing and patents and all but it just seems that simple logic would sell and make more money than high prices. But, hey, what is logical in this world anymore.

DONOTDELETE · 03-09-2001, 09:24 AM

That same machine has been in Eastern's online catalogue for about 3 years under the Mcmillen name?

03-08-2001, 03:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
geneP Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Central Mississippi, USA Posts: 388	Replace a boxblade, disc, and rake with this? I found this, and thought it was revelant to the recent posts on blades and rakes. Anyone seen one work? http://www.tr3rake.com/index.asp

03-08-2001, 04:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
markcg2000 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Henrietta, NY, USA Posts: 348	Re: Replace a boxblade, disc, and rake with this? Looks like one heck of a rake, and maybe it could replace a disc, but I don't see how it could replace the blade function of a boxblade. Any idea what these might cost? mark

03-08-2001, 07:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Thomas Super Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 6,647	Re: Replace a boxblade, disc, and rake with this? Gene, Maybe I miss something about that new unit. How does one pull the soil to another location,also what about hard soil {rocks etc..}use. Indeed it look great for finishing landscaping and well built. If you should get the video let us know more about it.....okay. Thomas..NH [img]/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif[/img]

03-08-2001, 08:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
TraderMark Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Southeast Georgia Posts: 91	Re: Replace a boxblade, disc, and rake with this? geneP..... what a coincidence! I stumbled across the info on the TR3 rake just last night myself. One site I saw had some prices and even though it looks like a great implement, it was far too pricey for me. Take a look here....http://www.aufait.net/~tolleyt/blue-ridge.html and see what you think. <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1>Edited by TraderMark on 03/08/01 08:13 PM (server time).</FONT></P>

03-08-2001, 11:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
Alan L. Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Grayson County, TX Posts: 1,966	Re: Replace a boxblade, disc, and rake with this? Way too pricey!!!

03-09-2001, 08:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
gmason Platinum Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: NC Posts: 539	Re: Replace a boxblade, disc, and rake with this? Looks like they priced it with some "new math", based on each piece Rake + Box blade + Dragbar + Pulveriser = $3000 Ouch!

03-09-2001, 08:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
cowboydoc Super Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 6,735	Re: Replace a boxblade, disc, and rake with this? Why do these guys price these things so dang high? I mean they can't have more than a few hundred dollars in materials. Wouldn't it make more sense to price and sell quantity rather than selling a few and scalping the person buying it? I bet even at under a thousand dollars they would still make a good profit and they would sell way more. You see this on all these implements for compact tractors, prices sky high! I just go to farm sales and buy mine for a tenth the price. I probably don't have $1k in my disc, rake, plow, harrow, box blade, and sprayer for the compact tractor.

03-09-2001, 08:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
RobS Super Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: SW Michigan Posts: 5,183	Re: Replace a boxblade, disc, and rake with this? Pricing is all about marketing. First-to-market with a new innovation will always price high to recover tooling and development costs. If the innovation catches on a competitor will likely copy it and sell cheaper as he didn't have to do all the development work. That will force the first guy to lower his prices and erode his margins. His only protection is through patents. This is exactly what happens in pharmacueticals (sp?) (as I'm sure you're aware). Only difference is the magnitude of the development costs for a new drug are so many times higher that that for a new farm implement (or car parts in my case). Then the public pressures the company to lower the price on the latest life saving drug which only eats into that companies ability to continue further drug developments. Patent protection exists for a reason! Sorry, I ramble [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]

03-09-2001, 09:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
cowboydoc Super Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 6,735	Re: Replace a boxblade, disc, and rake with this? Rob, Yes you are completely right about drug companies. I think they scalp people as well. Difference is that people need medications at one time or another and don't need tractor implements as a matter of life and death and that is where I think the drug companies are all the more wrong. I could tell you stories about those guys that would make your hair stand on end. But enough of that. I certainly understand about marketing and patents and all but it just seems that simple logic would sell and make more money than high prices. But, hey, what is logical in this world anymore.

03-09-2001, 09:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
DONOTDELETE New Member Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0	Re: Replace a boxblade, disc, and rake with this? That same machine has been in Eastern's online catalogue for about 3 years under the Mcmillen name?

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