Sicma vs Ansung tiller

[Catman8]

Thanks for the info guys, in the earlier post it was mentioned that the more tines you have the more hp is required, the one thing I did not take into account is that the same width in different models from the same manufacturer has different amount of tines, that's why I could not understand why a heavier tiller of the same width required more hp until I compared the different models and the amount of tines of the same manufacturer. Maybe this post will help others understand, because I missed that fact. I contacted a Ansung dealer here in Ca. and he suggested the ER062, he suggested the yjro62 might bog down my tractor, of course depending on soil conditions and depth, that was his suggestion.
What I still don't understand is the minimum hp should not be the same for all three models as they indicate if more tines = more hp.

Ansung
Yjc062 36 tines 533lb. 26-45 hp
ER062 42 tines 656lb. 26-45 hp
Yjr062 48 tines 703lb. 26-45 hp

 

[jeff9366]

It probably indicates that all the Ansung tillers are too heavy for sub-compact tractors or will not mount properly on sub-compact size Three Point Hitches. While sub-compact tractors often have Cat 1 size Three Point Hitches, sub-compact tractors often require smaller dimensioned implements than compact tractors.

(( This is the case with Moldboard Plows and Cultivators, in particular. ))

 

[Sawyer Rob]

Depends on rotor speed too, faster speed needs more hp, but a faster rotor speed does a better job too.

Lots of folks here keep saying, just go slower! I'm guessing they never heard of "soil structure", or knew you aren't suppose to pound your soil into dust and going too slow does just that!

SR

 

[Catman8]

It probably indicates that all the Ansung tillers are too heavy for sub-compact tractors or will not mount properly on sub-compact size Three Point Hitches. While sub-compact tractors often have Cat 1 size Three Point Hitches, sub-compact tractors often require smaller dimensioned implements than compact tractors.

(( This is often the case with Moldboard Plows and Cultivators, in particular. ))

JD told me that a 2032R was a compact tractor not a subcompact, do you think I will have mounting issues with these model tillers?

 

[Catman8]

Depends on rotor speed too, faster speed needs more hp, but a faster rotor speed does a better job too.

Lots of folks here keep saying, just go slower! I'm guessing they never heard of "soil structure", or knew you aren't suppose to pound your soil into dust and going too slow does just that!

SR

Sawyer Rob, what model of the Ansung tillers that I have listed do you feel would work best with a JD 2032R?

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I've never run that model of JD, so I can't help you with that...

SR

 

[powerscol]

Measure you three point and let us know I believe you need 28" for cat one. All I can suggest is rent one first, even another brand of similar size and weight and see how it goes. Also check the JD site for matching 3pt implements for you tractor. Would be a good starting point as a comparison. What puzzles me is the ERO has a larger diameter rotor swing that the Yjr and a deeper tilling depth (1/2") so I would imagine would take more power. Seems strange. There are several venders here that sell the Ansung brand - perhaps they can help too.
Home has all the specifications on the models. Hope this helps

 

[Catman8]

I just got a call today that the truck driver loaded my JD and is on his way from MN. to CA. I can take delivery on Tuesday then I can measure the three point. I had another thought, do all manufacturers of tillers use the same gear ratio, and do all the tines have the same rpm's. I'm trying to figure out why the same size tiller from different manufacturers have different hp ratings.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

No they aren't all geared the same, even the length of the tines can be different!

Two of my tillers, have multi speed gear boxes....that's one sign of a REAL, HD tiller...

SR

 

[Catman8]

No they aren't all geared the same, even the length of the tines can be different!

Two of my tillers, have multi speed gear boxes....that's one sign of a REAL, HD tiller...

SR

So do you think that is why they have different hp ratings for the same size tiller.