Tiller Kubota B2601 tiller vs disc

[ovrszd]

Will any disc thats cat 1 work? Or will some connections be too high for my 3pt? I believe my tractor falls in the compact range

I'm not familiar with your tractor so can't answer that. Sorry.

 

[jenkinsph]

I have used tillers in tough ground before and would not be concerned about the comments the other posters have made. Living in the Rocky Mountains we have plenty of rocks. With 20 pto hp. I would go for a 48" tiller any day over a 4' disc. Just a better match for your tractor since a tiller pushes forward on the tractor there isn't any draft load.

Large discs behind large tractors work fine, but small tractors can make better use of a tiller.

 

[bmg7754]

I have used tillers in tough ground before and would not be concerned about the comments the other posters have made. Living in the Rocky Mountains we have plenty of rocks. With 20 pto hp. I would go for a 48" tiller any day over a 4' disc. Just a better match for your tractor since a tiller pushes forward on the tractor there isn't any draft load.

Large discs behind large tractors work fine, but small tractors can make better use of a tiller.

Appreciate the feedback.

Thanks

 

[jeff9366]

Some of the ground will have a lot of roots and rocks. Virgin soil. Still go with a tiller?

Yes. A FORWARD ROTATION Tiller, not reverse rotation.

Small seeds require light to germinate. Small seeds like Clover need to be pressed into the soil without cover, or barely covered. You can control the depth a tiller mixes. Till shallow. (A Cultipacker is the specialized Three Point implement used to press seeds into soil.)

Moist woods soil is soft compared to pasture soil which has been compacted by confined hoofed animals.

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I have used tillers in tough ground before and would not be concerned about the comments the other posters have made. Living in the Rocky Mountains we have plenty of rocks. With 20 pto hp. I would go for a 48" tiller any day over a 4' disc. Just a better match for your tractor since a tiller pushes forward on the tractor there isn't any draft load.

Large discs behind large tractors work fine, but small tractors can make better use of a tiller.

In the years I have been contributing to T-B-N I have come to appreciate JENKINSPH as one of the three most valued respondents.

PHOTOS: ETA Cultipacker.

 

[jeff9366]

10/10/2016

Why disc harrow over rototiller for soil prep?
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Most game food plot mixes are strong germinators. Till enough so the food plot seeds have a good probability of germinating and becoming sufficiently established before natural vegetation returns.

Rolling in food plot seed with a Cultipacker or roller will improve germination rate considerably.


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Your PTO powered roto-tiller is optimum for soil preparation. One pass should be sufficient. Deer seed mixes contain strong germinators. You do not need a perfectly smooth seed bed. Do not roto-till the fertilizer too deep, 2" is deep enough. You want rain to carry nutrients to the root zone, not deeper. Clover has shallow roots.

If the Pure Attraction seed blend has small seed such as Clover, do not drag. Small seeds require light to germinate. If you cover small seeds with a drag, they will not germinate. Dragging is for medium and large seeds. If you want to drag for smoothness and for some tractor seat time, drag after tilling but before seeding.

Seed only when soil is moist or rain is forecast several days in succession.

After sowing seed, roll seeds in if possible. The optimum implement is a heavy Cultipacker, which flattens clods, rolls in seed and presses a pattern into the soil which directs moisture to the seeds and may aid in erosion prevention.

Used Cultipackers are $400-$600. A Cultipacker consists of heavy cast iron wheels on an axle, supported by a frame.

You can buy a cheap poly roller from TSC or another farm/tractor supply store which will last several years, if you empty water before hard freezes. I have used the poly roller in Photo #4 for six years. ((No hard freezes in my part of Florida.))

Or you can press in seed with tractor tires, which will take time over 1.5 acres.

Then, pray for rain, like agriculturalists for 7,000 years. If the soil drys out you will gradually lose some of the seed, which is vulnerable after germinating.

It may take several years to conquer residual weed seeds in recovered ground. You can use 2,4-D herbicide ("Kills broadleaf weeds, not grass") in a one gallon, poly tank hand-sprayer to control any pernicious weeds which sprout amidst your food plot seed. Buy 2,4-D concentrate in the ag chemicals section at TSC or whatever your local farm/tractor store is. Deer will browse many, not all, weeds at some stage of weed growth. The objective is to prevent undesirable vegetation from producing seed.


Disc Harrows and PTO powered roto-tillers are both soil mixing implements which accomplish soil mixing in different ways.

 

[nybirdman]

I would cut any standing grass,round-up,plow( an inexpensive potato plow) to break the hard-pan and roto-till.Plant and cultipac.In my area anyway the ground is too hard to break with a small tractor and disc.I have tons and tons of rocks of all sizes;just leave the discharge flap wide open.