Show me your TnTs

[jinman]

I keep hearing that there are dealers giving people blank looks when they ask about top-n-tilt cylinders. I think we should post photos so when someone wants to get TnT for their tractor, they can just print out the photo of the setup on a tractor similar to theirs and take it to their dealer.

What do you think? Can we get a bunch of photos here? If you only have just a toplink cylinder or sidelink cylinder, post that too. This is such a great addition to my tractor, I wish it were a factory option. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Okay, I'll start with my setup on my TC45D (see attachment). The bolt holding my sidelink to the liftarm was a temporary fix until I got the hole drilled bigger (I had to buy a bit.).

 

[DAP]

Jim,

That toplink hose looks very cracked? Or is it the photo or moisture or sumpin?

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[Glenn9643]

Jim said "they can just print out the photo of the setup on a tractor similar to theirs and take it to their dealer"...
Stop and think about the printed size after considering the 100k limit on uploaded photos. They might be able to copy the image file to a floppy disk and take that to the dealer for viewing on the computer there.
I thought I had some pictures of my setup, but couldn't find them.

 

[tc35dforme]

I just printed out Jim's pic and the resolution is more than adequate.....Not a concern.....

Now if I can only find a nice frame for that pic....I have a bare spot over the fireplace /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[jinman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( That toplink hose looks very cracked? Or is it the photo or moisture or sumpin?
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We all wrinkle and crack a little with age... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
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In the case of two-wire hydraulic hoses, the outside covering is purely cosmetic and has little or no value. Mine has seen over two years of Texas sun with SPF-0 sunblocker applied. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

If the hose ever leaks or the wire becomes frayed, I'll get new hoses. They're too darn big for the toplink cylinder anyhow. You only need a tiny flow. I actually think that big hoses "balloon up" and allow the cylinder to move as much as 1/2 in. in and out. One of these days I'll buy a piloted checkvalve type cylinder and new hoses. ...maybe when I quit being "Mr. Cheap." /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[beenthere]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ""... piloted checkvalve type cylinder.."" )</font>

Curious as to what that is and what its advantages would be?

Also, do you ever experience the tilt cylinder not holding a 3pt load on that right arm?

 

[MadReferee]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ""... piloted checkvalve type cylinder..""

Curious as to what that is and what its advantages would be?
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Take a look at this thread, especially the responses near the end of the thread. It should answer a lot of your questions.

Double pilot operated check valve

 

[jinman]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Also, do you ever experience the tilt cylinder not holding a 3pt load on that right arm? )</font>

If you mean bleed-down, I have noticed a lot less on my tilt cylinder than on my toplink. I've seen none. I use my rotary cutter and don't have to readjust at all to keep it level.

If you mean weight load, that's not a problem either. The total weight felt on that lift arm, even with a load of over a ton on the 3PH, would be only half of the total weight. With 2,500 psi of hydraulic pressure and the size of that cylinder, there's nothing I'd want to lift with my tractor that the tilt cylinder won't hold.

 

[Gator6x4]

If the dealer gives a blank stare on top-and-tilt you could have them accesss Jim McCuan's web site Terrain Contour Control. Or have them send Jim an E-Mail at Sales@integrationengineering.net. He can explain what they are. He also offers top-and-tilt in a complete kit, valves and cylinders or valves and cylinders seperately. His cylinders have dual pilot valves and do not suffer drift or leak down like cylinders without pilot valves. I removed OEM cylinders from my L3830 and replaced them with cylinders supplied by Jim. The difference is very noticeable. No more adjusting when using to maintain "Level" or a determined setting. Very-Very-Nice. The OEM cylinders were a royal pain. The valves and cylinders were both replaced without problem correction. The installation of the cylinders with pilot valves corrected the problem. I cannot speak about leak down on tractors other than the Kubota L3830 with cylinders without pilot valves. I do know my tractor with the OEM cylinders and control valves would drift-leak down during use and when stopped.

 

[beenthere]

Thanks, and I meant 'weight' load. Glad to hear your answer.