FEL Lift Height

MikePA · 04-25-2001, 12:59 PM

We hope to be able to sell our horse stall cleanings to a local (90 miles away) mushroom farm. I am assuming they will show up with a dump truck and expect me to load it. Is it feasible to load a dump truck with a FEL on a compact tractor? Any recommendations?

Knight9 · 04-25-2001, 01:05 PM

Mike,

My neighbor down the way raises Arabians and he had the same issue as he wanted to haul out the piles also. He has an older mid-sized JD and ended up using some fill dirt to build a nice little ramp (good gradual slope). He has the truck pull in with the side right up against the ramp and just goes up and down the ramp with no problem. Seems pretty slick to me but I think I would really want to ensure the ramp was well constructed!! [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Kevin

cowboydoc · 04-25-2001, 02:56 PM

Mike,
What size tractor? I've got a 4600 JD and have no problem loading a dump truck.

MikePA · 04-25-2001, 03:35 PM

I don't have a tractor...yet. I was considering an L2910/L3010

Also, what size dump truck, tri-axle?

DarinRay · 04-25-2001, 04:06 PM

Hello MikePA,

Well it just so happens that I've been the last two day moving a hillside with my L35 and my 1ton dump. Now this is not even close to a real dump truck height especially a tri-axle. I can tell you that I'm not a very good operator yet but am trying...I've been using both the backhoe to load the truck and the loader and have yacked it a couple times already because there isn't all that much room to spare. I guess one more thing is that I am working on uneven ground so maybe that would make it alot easier working on flat ground. I would say to be on the safe side you might consider what was mentioned about making a loading ramp or something stable. That way you wouldn't be stuck with a dump truck there waiting to be loaded and not being able to reach high enough.

As far as being able to load a tri-axle I would say not a chance without a ramp. And I'm not really familiar with the height of a 2910 or a 3010 so I can't say what size dump you would be able to load but am sure a truck like mine you would't have any trouble. No tandem or tri-axles unless they are flat bed dumps. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Darin

DONOTDELETE · 04-25-2001, 04:28 PM

I live next to Avondale, PA (mushroom capital of the world), and we looked into having our manure hauled away by mushroom growers.
First of all, most growers will not accept manure mixed with wood shavings (it takes too long to decompose), as they prefer straw. For this reason, we bought a manure spreader.
Secondly, I have never seen a grower show up with a tri-axle dump truck, at least not when hauling residential/small farm manure. Most locals use the equivalent of an F-350 or Dodge 3500 dump truck (but I'd check with your grower).
Thirdly, as cowboydoc pointed out with his 4700, I have a JD4200 and I'd have no problem either.
I'm betting you'd be perfectly fine with the tractors you have in mind.
Good luck, hess.

MikePA · 04-25-2001, 04:37 PM

How much land do you have to spread the manure out on? We use wood chips, not straw, and I can not convince my wife to use straw.

MarkV · 04-25-2001, 04:46 PM

Mike,

Don't have all you answers, but I can tell you that my B21 has a max loader lift height of 88.8" and 66.5" with the bucket in dump mode. The B21 is close to the size of most of the "B" models.

MarkV

cowboydoc · 04-25-2001, 05:07 PM

Mike,
Not sure of the lift height on the tractors you're talking about. I don't know about a tri-axle dump as I've only loaded dual axle trucks. As far as spreading manure it would depend on the amount of horses that you have. My experience has been that you need at least an acre per horse to be able to effectively spread manure. It's also a good idea to leave the horses off of the area that you spread for a few days if you spread it right from the stall.

Bird · 04-25-2001, 06:55 PM

Can't say I'm surprised, but this is the first time I've heard of mushroom growers using horse manure. Campbell Soup recently shut down a mushroom farm in our area and they used turkey manure and straw (and I don't know what else) but only used it for one crop, then discarded it and started over. And for awhile I was lucky enough to have access to the "mushroom soil" they were discarding. Nice stuff to till into the garden.

Bird

04-25-2001, 12:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
MikePA Super Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,360	FEL Lift Height We hope to be able to sell our horse stall cleanings to a local (90 miles away) mushroom farm. I am assuming they will show up with a dump truck and expect me to load it. Is it feasible to load a dump truck with a FEL on a compact tractor? Any recommendations?

04-25-2001, 01:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
Knight9 Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Alberta Posts: 1,135	Re: FEL Lift Height Mike, My neighbor down the way raises Arabians and he had the same issue as he wanted to haul out the piles also. He has an older mid-sized JD and ended up using some fill dirt to build a nice little ramp (good gradual slope). He has the truck pull in with the side right up against the ramp and just goes up and down the ramp with no problem. Seems pretty slick to me but I think I would really want to ensure the ramp was well constructed!! [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] Kevin

04-25-2001, 02:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
cowboydoc Super Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 6,735	Re: FEL Lift Height Mike, What size tractor? I've got a 4600 JD and have no problem loading a dump truck.

04-25-2001, 03:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
MikePA Super Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,360	Re: FEL Lift Height I don't have a tractor...yet. I was considering an L2910/L3010 Also, what size dump truck, tri-axle?

04-25-2001, 04:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
DarinRay Platinum Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: West Valley, New York Posts: 534	Re: FEL Lift Height Hello MikePA, Well it just so happens that I've been the last two day moving a hillside with my L35 and my 1ton dump. Now this is not even close to a real dump truck height especially a tri-axle. I can tell you that I'm not a very good operator yet but am trying...I've been using both the backhoe to load the truck and the loader and have yacked it a couple times already because there isn't all that much room to spare. I guess one more thing is that I am working on uneven ground so maybe that would make it alot easier working on flat ground. I would say to be on the safe side you might consider what was mentioned about making a loading ramp or something stable. That way you wouldn't be stuck with a dump truck there waiting to be loaded and not being able to reach high enough. As far as being able to load a tri-axle I would say not a chance without a ramp. And I'm not really familiar with the height of a 2910 or a 3010 so I can't say what size dump you would be able to load but am sure a truck like mine you would't have any trouble. No tandem or tri-axles unless they are flat bed dumps. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img] Darin

04-25-2001, 04:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
DONOTDELETE New Member Join Date: Dec 1969 Posts: 0	Re: FEL Lift Height I live next to Avondale, PA (mushroom capital of the world), and we looked into having our manure hauled away by mushroom growers. First of all, most growers will not accept manure mixed with wood shavings (it takes too long to decompose), as they prefer straw. For this reason, we bought a manure spreader. Secondly, I have never seen a grower show up with a tri-axle dump truck, at least not when hauling residential/small farm manure. Most locals use the equivalent of an F-350 or Dodge 3500 dump truck (but I'd check with your grower). Thirdly, as cowboydoc pointed out with his 4700, I have a JD4200 and I'd have no problem either. I'm betting you'd be perfectly fine with the tractors you have in mind. Good luck, hess.

04-25-2001, 04:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
MikePA Super Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,360	Re: FEL Lift Height How much land do you have to spread the manure out on? We use wood chips, not straw, and I can not convince my wife to use straw.

04-25-2001, 04:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
MarkV Elite Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Cedartown, Ga and N. Ga mountains Posts: 2,945	Re: FEL Lift Height Mike, Don't have all you answers, but I can tell you that my B21 has a max loader lift height of 88.8" and 66.5" with the bucket in dump mode. The B21 is close to the size of most of the "B" models. MarkV

04-25-2001, 05:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
cowboydoc Super Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 6,735	Re: FEL Lift Height Mike, Not sure of the lift height on the tractors you're talking about. I don't know about a tri-axle dump as I've only loaded dual axle trucks. As far as spreading manure it would depend on the amount of horses that you have. My experience has been that you need at least an acre per horse to be able to effectively spread manure. It's also a good idea to leave the horses off of the area that you spread for a few days if you spread it right from the stall.

04-25-2001, 06:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bird Epic Contributor Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Corinth, TX, USA Posts: 22,946	Re: FEL Lift Height Can't say I'm surprised, but this is the first time I've heard of mushroom growers using horse manure. Campbell Soup recently shut down a mushroom farm in our area and they used turkey manure and straw (and I don't know what else) but only used it for one crop, then discarded it and started over. And for awhile I was lucky enough to have access to the "mushroom soil" they were discarding. Nice stuff to till into the garden. Bird

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