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    Default Re: Woods MD 172 rotary cutter

    Gordon,

    I have the MD 160 with stump jumper, slip clutch and chain guards on my 2910. I like it very much. Put about 50 hours of cutting on it last fall, mostly in very heavy, woody, multi-stemmed brush. Also lots of 10 foot high reed grass and cattails.

    The litany of damage I did to my tractor in my brush cutting would fill a whole thread: just about every pin ripped out, FEL ripped off more than once, 3ph pins ripped out, draw bar pulled off, floor panels crushed upwards by logs, radiator grills speared by sharp sticks, flat tire, gas pedal wedged in forward and reverse by brush, etc., etc.

    But the MD 160 survived and cut through it all with no damage. Yes, it is dented in the back where I constantly backed into trees, and it has one outward bulge in a side panel from a ferocious tussle with a steel fence post. (I don't think a light duty side panel would have survived.) But clearly the cutter was able to take significantly more abuse than the tractor could. Nothing broke on the cutter except the top link pin, which got pulled out and lost, like every other pin and clip.

    I found that if I could drive over a woody thing the MD160 would cut it. Sometiimes I would drive over a multistemmed thing (say, 15 stems, each in in the 1" to 1 1/2" diameter range), and the tractor might be lifted 25 degrees off its front wheels, pointed skyward. I could keep powering forward until my raised cutter was over the bent stems, and would then lower the cutter on top of the bent over stems. (In these situations, I wished for a heavier tractor.) It might take several passes, but the cutter would cut down the whole clump. I really would recommend skid plate armor for this type of cutting, but fortunately I didnt rip off any of my hoses. I did this scores of times, maybe 100. I could not back over these clumps and I found that chain sawing them was much too time consuming. Also the stumps rot away faster when they are shattered than when they are saw cut.

    This is the only cutter I have ever had so I dont have any personal experience with others. But I am very glad I got the medium duty, the slip clutch and the chain guards.

    I have seen the newer Brush Bull, and the humped back to shed water does make sense, though I wouldnt pay a lot of money for the feature. I have no idea what the rounded back is supposed to do, except to stylistically match the Bush Hog, Landpride and other cutters that have gone to the round back. If you use it in the woods, it will inevitably end up all dented anyway.

    I paid 20% off list, whatever that was. Use it with my Freedom Hitches, of course. Can't imagine struggling with 700 lbs. on a 3ph.

    Finally, the Woods MD gets stuck in the mud just great. Had it on my tractor both times I got stuck and had to get towed out. Gets stuck particularly well when you go though the ice cutting cattails, and there is not only mud under the ice but a nice big boulder right under the cutter skirts.

    Maybe you can get a good price deal on the older MD's now that they are being replaced.

    Glenn


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    Default Re: Woods MD 172 rotary cutter

    Question on all rear cutters with "newer humped top". Is this hump also a rise in area above the cutter blades? I have not seen but the flat top versions and wondered if it is an effort to afford more air flow and better pickup while cutting? I could understand if the top was double plated and only designed to run water off, but more air flow wold also be nice. The design might be an attemp to copy the high air flow side discharged version?

    "What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered."
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    Default Re: Woods MD 172 rotary cutter

    Glenn, sounds like you put that mower and tractor thru some real tough stuff. I thought I was hard on equipment but I think you have me beat. Thanks for the heads up on the mower. Sounds like it would be money well spent.

    Thats why my L-3750 looked like a tank ready for battle. It spent alot of it's hours serving me well in the woods. I had a bellypan on that tractor, brushbars and expanded metal over the windows of the cab. Bad news is the new tractor has no cab so I've got to start from scrach to get her ready for the woods.

    But I'm hoping to do less woods work than I did in the past time will tell on that one. That is why I went with no cab for the visibility factor.

    You never did fill us in on the tractor stuck deal, inquiring minds want to know!!!!![img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]

    Gordon


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    Default Re: Woods MD 172 rotary cutter

    Gordon,

    I'm curious to know how your search for a rotary cutter is going. I recently picked up some brochures for a Bush Hog 285 ( $1700 w/chains) and the Woods 600 ($1650 w/chains), both being medium duty 5' cutters. According to the spec sheets, both units appear to be very similiar except when it comes to weight. The Bush Hog lists at 765 lbs and the Woods weighs in at 1039 lbs. Would the difference in weight be a big factor to consider when purchasing a cutter.

    Russ


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    Default Re: Woods MD 172 rotary cutter

    certainly don't mean to cut in here - but if I may --- I have the woods 600 on my TC45 and it is definitely heavy. I'm a little light in the front when I have the cutter on. Even when the FEL is on I still feel a little light up front - the front tires tend to skid a bit in turns. I need to get some additional weights to hang on the front. That's one of your weight considerations on a cutter I think. The specs on the 3 pt say it will lift 2300 lbs and maybe it will - but I bet it's REALLY light in front if you do. One of the things that sold me on the woods was the bolt that holds the blades on - it's about a 5/8 bolt that holds the really large pin that holds the blades - no exposed threads to rust up & no really large bolt that needs a 1" drive socket. All things considered I decided to deal with the extra weight 'cause I liked the rest of it better than any other cutter I looked at. So far I've been real happy - 'cept when I hit suppin' that makes the cutter go "BANG" ...then I go !@#$&!@#$!!!!
    mike


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    Default Re: Woods MD 172 rotary cutter

    Mike,

    By all means cut in. After reading your post, I thought about what you said concerning your problem with the front end being light which brings up another question for all the guys who have put in alot of time in front of a rotary cutter. Given that the brochures mention cutting depths from 2-10 inches, I take it that there are occasions when the cutter will not be riding on the ground. I understand that a 1000lb cutter in the fully raised position will make a front end light but if the cutter is riding say 3-4 inches above grade, will this also translate into a light front end. Given that the Woods 600 is 200+ lbs heavier than the Bush Hog 285, this could factor into the decision.

    Russ


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    Default Re: Woods MD 172 rotary cutter

    I have not made a decision as of yet on a cutter. It takes me awhile to make a decision on any implement. It also helps to drive the price down as well. Works sometimes.

    Weight is a factor with anything and a light front end is no fun. But the heavier cutter hopefully is built stronger as well so you get what you pay for. Different tractors will react different, with the same cutter on the back so some of it I guess is trial and error. Talking with the dealer and with other owners on this board brings alot of information on what works and what doesn't.

    Gordon


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    Default Re: Woods MD 172 rotary cutter

    mikim,
    How old is your Woods 600? I thought that Wood's had quite using the big pin with the small bolt. I have an older Wood's M5 with that bolt arrangement also. It is the best blade attachment method that I have seen. All the companies should do it that way, then the blades would be changed when need, instead of when a 3/4" impact was available
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    Default Re: Woods MD 172 rotary cutter

    I have the Dale Phillips landscape rake and I'll probably buy their rotary mower. It's heavy duty as any I've seen and costs $1150-1250 depending on slip clutch or shear pin. The company is in Alabama and not on the web. For info I'd contact Bill's Tractor in San Antonio at www/billstractor.com.

    DaveH

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    Default Re: Woods MD 172 rotary cutter

    I bought the 600 the end of April and have run it maybe 20 hours ... my country home is 2.5 hours from where I earn my living and and have my main shelter from wind & rain. yeah - I'm another "windshield rancher" for now. Had to follow the job market but kept the home place. (country=home city=house) I have as yet to remove those blades - but am hoping the setup they have works as good as it looks even after a coupla years. The old mower I sold as part of the 8n sale (Servis I think?)will need a torch to remove those blades.
    mike


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