I've been able to use the bigger grapple that Harv linked to much more since that last thread. I still love it. You can't imagine the time it has saved me clearing brush/trees. It was kinda pricey, but I spend about 80% of my tractor time clearing cedar trees. Now, if I could just find a way to make the trees fall over by themselves with the roots attached! Piling the trees with the tractor is fun, running a chainsaw all day isn't. Good luck