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  1. #1
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    La Veta, CO
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    Kubota 4610

    Default Backhoe Price

    What should I expect to pay for a backhoe for a L3710. Is there a big difference between different manufacturers?


  2. #2

    Default Re: Backhoe Price

    There was an earlier post about a new kelley hoe for $3600 check back a couple of days.


  3. #3

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    Lyndeborough, NH
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    Kubota L5030HSTC, Farmall SuperC

    Default Re: Backhoe Price

    I have a Woods 9000 with PTO pump on my L3710HSt that I bought slightly used in March for about $5865. This includes the sub frame, installation and delivery. You lose the use of the mid-point PTO but that didn't matter to me as I don't use it. Very pleased with the unit. I had looked at the posts both here and on the ***** board before buying. Also had spent a little time using a Woods 7500 on an L3600 - which shifted my focus to the bigger unit with almost twice the power and a bit more reach. Good luck!

    Andy in NH

  4. #4

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    Location
    Raymond ,New Hampshire
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    L3010HST (Jezebel)

    Default Re: Backhoe Price

    AndyR,
    I was looking at the specs for my 3010 HST. kubota says the 7500 or the 9000 will fit on the 3010. Is there a greater demand for power in the 9000 versus the 7500? I want to purchase a backhoe in the next year or two and have just really started to investigate the possibilities. Any info would be greatly appreciated
    Jason


  5. #5

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    Lyndeborough, NH
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    Kubota L5030HSTC, Farmall SuperC

    Default Re: Backhoe Price

    Check the Woods website. I think the flow requirements for the 9000 are a bit higher. I was debating on the pump vs. internal and ended up with the pump due to the used equip. deal (big savings). In afterthought, I think I would pay the extra for the pump because you keep the systems isolated AND you get a bit more power. I have been running the tractor at about 1200 RPM as I am still shy of the 50 hour mark, and find the hoe behavior is fine with me. Also, I ended up with a 16" bucket (originally looking at an 18) but that is fine due to the number of rocks I have to deal with (our best crop [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]).

    Andy in NH

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    Default Re: Backhoe Price

    Hi Andy,
    I appreciate your response. I'm pretty new to all of this. What is the major difference between the sub frame and 3PH attach? If I'm going to be digging stumps in rocky soil with rocks that are up to 15" diameter which would be best?


  7. #7

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    Kubota L5030HSTC, Farmall SuperC

    Default Re: Backhoe Price

    A subframe transfers the load (and stress) to two points on the tractor - a receiver that attaches where your 3 point hitch arms are and a front receiver that replaces a heavy u shaped connector plate right about the middle of the tractor. The backhoe looks like an old cannon when it is unmounted. The subframe is analagous to a gun carriage - in this case an A frame of steel, and slides (carefully) into the receivers where a cross bar on the hoe frame is captured by the rear receiver and the front receiver has a long pin that locks it in.

    Why go to the weight and expense (not to mention diminished ground clearance) of a sub-frame? Simple, both you and your tractor will end up living much longer. The sub-frame transfers the loads to the entire tractor frame - and you are talking about somthing powerfull enough to lift up and move your tractor. Search back through the archives and especially check the safety section. Backhoes, like aircraft, are terribly unforgiving of mistakes. Just imagine if the top link (or an arm connection) failed while you were sitting on a 3ph backhoe (hint - think squashed like a bug). Not only that, think of the stress on the tractor. When I have my stabilizers down and the bucket down I am in essence forming a 3 point contact with the ground. Stress is transferred to directly under the rear wheel and secondarily directly under the FEL mounting frame - so things are far less likely to break.

    Lastly, start slow and build your technique. I started out on snow and ice piles (had a bit o' that this year) and worked on getting smooth action. The smoother you are the longer your equipment will last. Also, I think Harv had cited a book on backhoe technique (something I need to track down one of these days) - search and find that too. When I was looking, I sent an email to the Woods company (link on thier site) and got quick responses - which also specifically recommended sub-frame only for my tractor.

    Good Luck!

    Andy in NH

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    Kubota 4610

    Default Re: Backhoe Price

    Andy,
    Thanks for the detailed explanation. It sounds like sub frame is the way to go.


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    California - S.F. East Bay & Sierra foothills
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    Kubota L2500DT Standard Transmission

    Default Re: Backhoe Price

    <font color=blue>I think Harv had cited a book on backhoe technique</font color=blue>

    T'weren't me, Andy! [img]/w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif[/img]

    If you want a hefty book, I could write one about everything I don't know about backhoes. [img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]

    You're talking about that grabby-looking thing that sticks out the back of some rich folks' tractors, aren't you? [img]/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif[/img]


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    Lyndeborough, NH
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    Kubota L5030HSTC, Farmall SuperC

    Default Re: Backhoe Price

    Rutroh! [img]/w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif[/img] Now I'll have to go find who it was[img]/w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif[/img] (and on which board). Haven't had coffee yet.... must have java..then spend more time on the backhoe. Yeah, that's it. Nothing like tractor time to get the mind clear[img]/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif[/img]. Gotta finish up a combination drain and electrical runs for new lighting.

    Andy in NH

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