glennmac
Veteran Member
In the many discussions on the merits of a frame mount vs. a 3ph mount for a backhoe, it is often stated that the 3ph mount can break the "frame" or the "back" or the "rear end" of the tractor. While I intuitively believe that a frame mount has somewhat more structural integrity, I stongly suspect that there is little real evidence of the breaking tractor bogeyman.
Just this weekend, I asked a dealer who has been in continuous business for over 50 years whether he has ever seen such a breakage and he said no. He then went on to say that maybe the reason is that he usually recommends a frame mount when available. So maybe his body of evidence is skewed.
I am interested in ACTUAL EXPERIENCE on these three questions. Not what you have heard someone else say. Not what you heard a dealer say. Not what you have read here. Do you have any personal knowledge of:
1. What exactly it is that actually breaks more often on the 3ph mount than on the frame mount?
2. What hoe maneuver causes such a break?
3. Do you have actual knowledge of of a tractor essentially "broken in half" from hoe usage?
Of course, anything can break from misuse and anything can break very occasionally from normal use. What we are trying to do is get some quantitative verification of the "broken" tractor phenomenon in order to measure the actual level of the supposed risk accompanying the 3ph mount.
If you are an experienced hoe user or tractor user and have never had such an actual experience, that too is valid evidence and is worthwhile to report.
Just this weekend, I asked a dealer who has been in continuous business for over 50 years whether he has ever seen such a breakage and he said no. He then went on to say that maybe the reason is that he usually recommends a frame mount when available. So maybe his body of evidence is skewed.
I am interested in ACTUAL EXPERIENCE on these three questions. Not what you have heard someone else say. Not what you heard a dealer say. Not what you have read here. Do you have any personal knowledge of:
1. What exactly it is that actually breaks more often on the 3ph mount than on the frame mount?
2. What hoe maneuver causes such a break?
3. Do you have actual knowledge of of a tractor essentially "broken in half" from hoe usage?
Of course, anything can break from misuse and anything can break very occasionally from normal use. What we are trying to do is get some quantitative verification of the "broken" tractor phenomenon in order to measure the actual level of the supposed risk accompanying the 3ph mount.
If you are an experienced hoe user or tractor user and have never had such an actual experience, that too is valid evidence and is worthwhile to report.