Backhoe Woods 7500 Backhoe Purchase

[jd2210va]

Hey Bill,

I'm not familiar with your tractor but I assume its 30 HP or more? If thats the case I'm sure you could be running a little larger model backhoe on it than the 6500 (but I understand it was originally purchased for the smaller tractor). Just wondering if you ever wish for a little more reach/digging depth? As I said elsewhere here, I liked the price for the 6500 model but was concerned I'd be wishing I'd spent the extra money for the 7500 model.

I'll have to double check on the subframe mount quoted to see if thats a "fourpoint" as you described it. He did say it was like a quick attach type.

Thanks for your advice!

 

[MadDog]

I have removed some pretty formidable stumps but not any 24" oak yet. I really think you could probably remove most stuff in the 1.5'-2'size provided you are willing to take your time about it and recognize the BH's strength limits. Worst comes to worst, you rip through the root a little further from the crown, where it has narrowed enough so your BH's force is sufficient to break it. Also, digging out parallel to the main roots on each side of them, can weaken them further and make it easier.

As has been said before, it is really surprizing what even a 7.5' BH can do. For most jobs that a homeowner would even think of attempting himself, the difference between that and a 9' or 11' BH is less what it can do, than the time and ingenuity that you have to be prepared to utilize to accomplish it. For example, the boulder that I was referring to in my earlier post was almost 5' wide x 1 1/2 to 2' each high and deep (all approx). It had to have weighed over 1000#. I was barely able to fit it in my 54" FEL and I could only raise it a few inches above the ground. But once I had dug out all around it, the BH curled it up out of the pit without much trouble. Go figure.....

 

[RodgerF]

I got a quote just about a month ago from Winchester Equipment. They quoted an installed price of $6250 for the 7500, subframe mount, pto pump and 12" bucket. This was from the new price list effective 1/05.

I don't live there but pass by it alot on my way to PA. Newer dealership, very nice. They sell both N.H. and Kubota.

At the risk of swiping this thread from the original poster /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif, what's everyone thoughts on upgrading to a 16" bucket on the Woods backhoe? This would be for a mix of relatively easy drainage ditch digging and some stumps in clay, somewhat rocky type soil?

Thanks,

Rodger

 

[jd2210va]

Thanks for the price/dealer info Roger. I may give them a call tomorrow.

As for the 16" bucket, I was thinking the same thing and today asked my dealer to give me the difference in price to swap from a 12" to a 16". He said it would raise the overall cost by $50. Doesn't sound bad but I still don't like the total cost for the deal....$7K by the time you add sales tax! I had also asked about a mechanical thumb on the bucket and was told the Gannon buckets for the 7500 don't have that option.

 

[henryjacobjosh]

Hi,

I purchased a Woods 7500 for my TC30. I was fortunate enough to find a used one at my dealer. I paid $5500.00 for it and it was only 1 yr. old. It came with a 12", 24" buckets and subframe mount. This price also included installation and all the necessary hoses and fittings.
As far as reach goes. You can never have enough of it. I would definatly go with the 7500 over the 6500. I would also recommend the subframe mount. My old tractor had a 6500 3PT mount and it wasn't as solid as the subframe. I have alot more confidence in the subframe. I think the 12" is the perfect fit for a small backhoe and it digs exceptionally well with the narrow bucket compared to the 24" and so on, but thats just my opinion. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
It's not a fullsize machine but is capable of handling alot. I have attached a picture of the backhoe from the previous owner of what it is capable of.
And 1 more thing. I have never regreted buying the BH to have and use at my discretion.
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Good Luck with whatever you decide.

 

[L3010Ken]

I have a 7500 and have trenched over 1500 feet of power, drain and water line in. One comment about using it to do drain lines that you want to put drain rock in. Get an 8" bucket - I bought one and it was the best investment I made as far as reducing the amount of drain rock required to back fill.

I also bought a bigger displacement pump as the stock unit (I think it was 2.5 cu in/rev) was too slow after I got good with the controls. I run the PTO at about 450 rpm as any faster and it is too noisy. The larger pump allows high speed hydraulics at comfortable motor rpms and it doesn't labor at all.

 

[Rick Jay]

jd2210va,

I have a Woods 7500 with subframe and separate hydraulic pump on my Kubota B2910. Here are my thoughts:

Get the largest hoe your tractor will handle, probably the 7500. It seems like you always want a little more reach.

I have a 16" bucket and an 8" bucket. If I only could afford one, I'd probably get a 12". However, for my use, I like having the two different sizes. The 8" is good for shallow trenching, but it's pretty hard to work in a trench that's so narrow. It is also good for "precision" work when the wider bucket doesn't fit well when working near the house or other structures. The 16" gives a nice, wide trench that is easy to work in, although it obviously requires much more removal of material and will require more backfill material, if required. Our soil is mostly hard pan clay laden with rocks of all sizes. With our soil, I think much wider than 16" would not be too productive as the hoe can easily pull the tractor around and a wider bucket would offer too much resistance. In sandy soil it could probably handle a larger bucket. The Gannon buckets are TOUGH! The teeth are bolt on. No scrimping here.

I like the added "security" of the subframe as compared to the 3 pt. mount. It is a bit larger to store as the subframe stays with the hoe. If you use a midmount mower, there was a time when the subframe mounting bracket that stays on the tractor would interfere with the mmm. Since I don't use a mmm, it wasn't an issue. I've heard they've eliminated that problem, and it possibly only applied to the Kubota's of my frame size. Just something to inquire about IF you decide to go with the 3 pt. mount.

Can't help you on price. I bought mine with my tractor almost 5 years ago! (Yikes!!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif) Doesn't seem like it was that long ago. I think the cost back then was around $5,500, but that was as a package deal with the tractor and loader.

Once you have a backhoe, you WILL find uses for it. I live on a postage stamp size property (2/3 acre) and I feel I've easily paid for the backhoe just in the few projects I've used it for in these short 5 years (150 hours on the tractor). I've put in a couple utility trenches for an RV pad I'm building, dug over 100' of drainage ditch as part of a dry well system to finally solve some water problems on our property, EASILY transplant shrubs, etc. etc.

Good Luck,

~Rick

 

[rdln]

Bought my 7500 in 1999, was $5600 with 24" and 9" bucket, subframe and pto pump. it has been good to me.

The problems that i have had are screws loosend that attach lever to valves and replaced stabilizer hoses due to rubbing.
The factory replacement hoses are thicker due to a more durable skin.

 

[Tryno]

Not sure if this helps, I just agreed (last week) to purchase a TC30 with a Bushhog 650 backhoe, submount and 12" bucket. Price was $6500 for the backhoe, so I think the prices you are getting are reasonable. Now if the dealer will get it all setup and delievered..........

 

[tnmx]

sounds like my quotes today are very high then. i got a quote of $6775 for woods 6500 and $7360 for the 7500. this was part of a package deal that included a B7800 and misc other implements totaling about $25k. guess i need to keep looking for a better price.

any opinions on rhino equipment? i have another dealer quoting a rhino 75 bh for $5995.