Back dragging with bucket

[JoeinTX]

That seems odd, as I should think that the FEL should be able to take whatever the tractor can dish out. I've used a lot of different equipment and I've never run across any kind of restriction like that with a backhoe or dozer or other tractor/FELs.
Like another poster above said, it's a common sense kind of thing. You'll know when you are abusing the equipment....you'll feel it.

 

[JerryG]

The idea is to minimize the stress on the loader and the tractor. If you tilt your bucket down, no more that between 30*-45*, you will not come to a sudden stop or cause an extreme pressure spike. Either one of these have the ability to damage a loader or tractor.

 

[JoeinTX]

If that is the case, then these loaders are terribly limited. If they can't handle the stress of normal (and I would consider this normal) use, what good are they?
I've never used a backhoe loader, etc with this kind of built in limitation...they would be near useless if so.
Now, this isn't a heavy industrial machine, but if the loader can not function reasonably under all loadings, why have it...?

 

[slowzuki]

A tractor is not a bulldozer or industrial loader.

I use it to backdrag but with common sense. On our last tractor (an ag tractor) the loader boom had cracked and was repaired from being used for backdragging. This was a respected loader too, IH2250.

Our current kubota has a nice loader, LA853 but I don't do half the stuff I used to do to the IH as it seems much lighter built.

 

[demote]

Help me understand how ya'll are going about backdragging with your FEL bucket. I have a toothbar on mine but nevertheless, I don't think it will even tilt enough to use the top edge for dragging but as for using the bottom edge, do you do so going in reverse or forward?
Danny

 

[Henro]

<font color="blue"> Help me understand how ya'll are going about backdragging with your FEL bucket. </font>

demote,

For me, there are two modes of backdragging.

One is with the front lip/toothbar which leaves one line per tooth if the tooth bar is on.

The other is with the BACK of the bucket, with the bucket turned upwards so the toothbar/lower lip is pointing upwards and not touching the ground at all. The drag is caused by the bucket bottom/back.

I have read about some welding a piece of angle on the back of their bucket to make back dragging with the bucket back even more productive, but I have not found that to be necessary for my needs.

Hope this helps... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[KiotiJohn]

Take what Henro just posted and also think of using your float postion (joystick pushed all the way forward, locked into float) so that the bucket follows the contours of the ground and takes some pressure off the loader. Of course, you may have to make more runs to get all the dirt backdragged, but you reduce the pressure exerted on your loader and cylinders. If the bucket encounters something tough, it will simply lift up over it and then you can deal with getting it out of the way.
John

 

[SCB]

<font color="green"> do you do so going in reverse or forward?
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Both.

 

[KiotiJohn]

If I go forward, I only use the bottom of the bucket, not the cutting edge. There's just too much pressure exerted with the cutting edge down going forward for my liking. I push forward with the bottom of the bucket, and then drag back with the angled cutting edge. Works great.
John

 

[SCB]

I use the bottom for smoothing also. I have a toothbar that prevents me from using the cutting edge. But on mine, and I don't know if other tractors have this, There are welded tabs that will stop the travel of my bucket in the down (or dump position) Wouldn't that put all the stress on the tabs and the bucket pins and the front edge if you are going in a forward direction and bind up on something? I can't see how it would damage the cylinder unless you sheared off the stop tabs. Maybe I'm missing something /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif