attachement rubbing on tires

[newtothis]

Thought that I was ready to plant food plots Sunday and got out the 2 row planter I recently bought at auction. After giving it the once over, putting on drive chains & greasing where I could, I noticed that it was rubbing on the tire to one side.

Bought it at a state auction and when they were loading it into my trailer, with fork truck and chains, the chain slipped off and it came crashing down. My heart skipped a few beats while I tried to maintain my composure.

They were eager with the "no harm no foul" and I couldn't find any damage either so took it home. It appears to have bent it somehow, somewhere, and now it leans to one side and rubs the darn tire.

I looked over the links to that arm of the 3 point and it appears you can adjust them. Is this adjustment to prevent them from swaying or cut down on the amount of sway? They are underneath the actual arms, running somewhat parralel to the ground. They are threaded but I can't figure out what for.

I seem to remember a past thread about this problem but couldn't find it in a search. I really hope someones got good news for me as I spent a fair amount of money on the planter!

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Your lower link arms on your tractor have some sort of a "sway adjustment" please consult you owners manual, but it may be as simple as a chain & turnbuckle adjustment, it may be a rigid sliding lock arrangement. In any case, one of your lower links has too much play, adjust the sway adjustment so the lower arm cannot contact the rear tire.

 

[bczoom]

Jack,

Is this on your 770?

If so, as Bob mentioned, there are turnbuckles on each of the lower arms. You'll want to turn those to get them snug. It also may be that one is turned down more than the other and your implement is offset to the one side (e.g. If it's rubbing on the left tire, the right side may turnbuckle may be turned down too far).

If you still have an issue, where your lower arms connect to the tractor on each pin there are 2 spacers. If not already done, take the spacers and move them to the outward sides (towards the tires). This will move your lower arms inward a couple more inches.

If after doing the aforementioned, you still have an issue, look to see if the pins on the implement can be turned inward. That'll gain a couple inches as well.

Brian

 

[newtothis]

Thanks guys, there's hope yet, sounds like some simple adjustments. It is on my 770.

I don't know if this makes any difference but the pins on the planter are both facing the same direction. I didn't fully take them in enough to notice how their attached but I imagine they bolt on. Would changing one so they both face outward make much difference? Wishing I had an impact set for my compressor at this point! As the planter seems to be decades old many of the bolts look like tough devils to get off.

Thanks a ton, I was pretty bummed yesterday but I've got renewed hope!

 

[bncsauve]

It would seem that the pins pointing in the same direction would have the affect of offsetting the attachment to one side or the other. If both pins were either pointing in or pointing out it would track better an not rub the tire along with the turn buckle adjustments

 

[bczoom]

Jack,

First, check/adjust the turnbuckles on the lift arms and check the shims. If you still have tire rub, I would change one of the implement pins so they point inward (not outward). That will provide more clearance.

Bob,

I could see how the implement would be offset but I can't see how having one inward, the other outward could relate to rubbing if the lift arms if the turnbuckles are tight. Am I missing something (not hard to do...)? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Personally (and for safety reasons), I wouldn't have both pins pointing in the same direction. When pointing in opposite directions if the implement is suddenly pushed or jolted in the direction of the linch pins, they could snap. The benefit of opposing directions is that one lift arm can always apply pressure to the implement frame.

Brian

 

[newtothis]

Thanks again for all the advice. Hopefully I'll have a smile on my face in the next few days due to seeds being in the ground.

In another thread I'd asked a question about the pump on my sprayer, also recently purchased and used. When the planter didn't seem to be in order I switched to the sprayer thinking I might as well spray down the fields if nothing else.

I had to change out the pump and bought a kit with chains and bar that bolt to the pump. It recommends attaching the chains to the housing of the PTO which in my case would require drilling holes, not too interested in that.

I figured that I could just wrap the chain around the draw bar instead but it wasn't long enough to do so. Also, the kit came with another weakeer chain for the other end of the bar including a spring for it. Is that an essential piece (the spring)? I need to buy a longer chain anyway and could do the same for the other side. Gotta admit that the spring is counfounding me. It has two long pieces inside of it with bent ends that come out either end of the spring. It says to hook the chain up to these inside pieces and I'm missing something very basic here as I can't for the life of me figure out this nifty little chinese puzzle!

All in all not a very productive day yesterday but I'm making progress in getting everything in working order.

 

[newtothis]

Thanks a ton for all the help. I know this is all old hat to most and the solution was as simple as it sounded. Made the adjustments to the arms then changed out a pin to face inward on the planter and voila, it rode just perfect!

I've gotta believe this isn't the first time something was rubbing on the tires, just the first time I noticed. I had taken in the fact that things seemed to sway an awful lot just hadn't made the connection that they might be hitting the tires. Tires don't seem any worse for the experience so I guess I've lucked out.

Got my sorghum and bean plates in today and feel like a kid in a candy store waiting anxiously for some seat time!

Again, thanks, this is a great forum for problems big and small. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[bczoom]

Glad to hear that everything worked OK.

Brian

 

[beenthere]

Sounds like your spring set-up is to take the shock out of the chain linkage holding your pump from rotating when connected to the PTO.

Your description of the spring reminds me of a spring on a storm door chain, that absorbs the shock if the wind catches the door.

That help any?