Kubotaphil46
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Does anyone have knowledge or experience with Woods Backhoe w/subframe damaging the top link of tractor??
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CTyler
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Appearently I'm missing something because you don't use the top link with a subframe backhoe. I have a Woods 9000.
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Kubotaphil46
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The dealer installed one on my L3710. I don't think it needs one either but the manual says to use it. The result is $2,800 worth of damage to rear housing. The dealer and woods rep both say it was a freak accident for the damage to occur and neither will help with expenses. I now have a 7500 w/subframe that I'm afraid to reinstall. Got any ideas??
CTyler
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You say you have a subframe but it sounds like your using a 3pt setup. A 3pt setup would use a heavy duty toplink bracket and a heavy duty toplink pin. If its a 3pt setup the you definatlt neede the bracket and pin. The bracket is bigger and spreads the load over a larger area.
On my subframe it bolts all the way around the axle housing and up to the loader frame. This creates another full frame under the tractor. The BH connects to the subframe with a 4pt connection. If somewere to break it would be the subframe or the axle housing itself.
Do you have pictures?
On my subframe it bolts all the way around the axle housing and up to the loader frame. This creates another full frame under the tractor. The BH connects to the subframe with a 4pt connection. If somewere to break it would be the subframe or the axle housing itself.
Do you have pictures?
MadDog
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I have a Woods 7500 and Woods subframe on a Kubota B7800. In addition to the subrame mounts (to a front bracket under the engine and to the lower arm pins) it also has a heavy duty toplink mount. I have put a fair amount of time on it with no trouble or damage to anything. However, a BH can generate some pretty strong forces and the possibility of tractor damage doesn't surprise me.
How did it happen? Some specifics would be helpful.
How did it happen? Some specifics would be helpful.
CTyler
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Ok, so you guys have a completely different subframe setup than I have.
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Kubotaphil46
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You must have the newer style of mounting subframe - lucky you!! Just talked with the Woods CSR - he advised not to suspend the entire tractor by lifting the front of tractor off ground with the loader bucket, only use the stablizers on BH and only rest the loader bucket on the ground. The top link should never be tightly adjusted, should be able to pull pin out of top link while the BH is not supported.
MadDog
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kphil: Now that you mention it, I think that the order in which I connect things is (1) connect 3ph hydraulic pump so outrigger arms can be used to raise BH to proper level, (2) connect lower 3ph arm pins and locking mechanism, (3) front of subframe to bracket under engine and, finally (4) heavy duty toplink to tractor.
I definitely agree that you don't want to toplink supporting the BH before the subframe is firmly anchored to the tractor chassis, both at the front and back of the subframe.
Hope this helps.
I definitely agree that you don't want to toplink supporting the BH before the subframe is firmly anchored to the tractor chassis, both at the front and back of the subframe.
Hope this helps.
Woods has two styles fo subframes. The old style subframe that the entire frame stayed with the backhoe, and the new 4 point subframe that has a tractor half and a backhoe half. Some of their really old subframes also had a 3 point link to help support the backhoe.
Ask to see of there is a heavy duty tractor top link bracket available for your unit.
You might want to also see if there is a 4 point mount available for your tractor.
Ask to see of there is a heavy duty tractor top link bracket available for your unit.
You might want to also see if there is a 4 point mount available for your tractor.