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    Default Using a logging winch?

    Hi all,

    Just purchased a new Tajfun 40A 2 to work the woods... Thank You to everyone for your advice!

    I'm entirely green to logging winches--I can see the chokers are designed to catch 3/8 chain... as is the hook at the end... what is the process exactly for hooking around logs so you can start pulling?

    I'm guessing get a wrap or two of chain tightly around the log(s) in question & go for it... but I'm getting images of crimped & damaged cable end going through my head... [img]/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

    All I'd done before is use rope & tie a timber & killick knot around the fat end & start driving... but rope & steel is a poor marriage, and the set-up is clearly intended for chain... [img]/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

    Any feedback/suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks again!

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    Default Re: Using a logging winch?

    What you need are some 6 foot lengths of high strength 5/16 or 3/8 inch chain. The 5/16 chain will work just fine in the sliders and end hook and are a little ligther than 3/8 chain.

    There are special hooks "chokers" which attach to the chain if you are going to use chain chokers. These hooks are slip type but the hole is more round and the opening in the hook will only let the chain enter the center if you turn the link just right. This way the chain is passed around the log, the chain slipped through the hook and the other end of the chain connected to the slider or end hook of the cable. The chain will tigthen around the log as you pull. Set the chain back at least a foot from the end of the log you are pulling.

    One thing that is very important when using a 3PH winch. ALWAYS PULL STRAIGHT BEHIND THE TRACTOR!! The winch has enough pull to tip the tractor over or to break the 3PH lift arms, I know I broke one thinking I could get away with a little side pull one time. You probably have a 15 dergee working angle behind the tractor but not much more.

    When trying to pull several logs at a time using the sliders on the cable attach the end hook to the log the greatest distance away and then get the next ones in line. Watch out for rocks, stumps, and other trees when pulling it doesn't take much sometimes to stop a log when this happens the front of the tractor will come off the ground quickly.

    If you want to pull a log that is off to the side a little, or to pull a log left or right to clear an obstruction you can attach a chocker to a tree to the left or right of the obstruction and attach one of the sliders to this chain then pull the cable in and the log will move to the side. You may want to protect the tree you are using as an anchor by wrapping an old blanket around it before attaching the choker to it.

    If you are pulling several logs into a pile behind the tractor pay attention to the logs already behind the tractor. As the pulled log gets near the others it can hook onto one already there and that log now starts heading for your feet or the tractor depending on where you are standing.

    If there are two of you working, one setting the chokers and cable while the other operates the winch watch out for the cable and the log as things start to move, you can take someone off their feet quickly.

    Pay attention to what is going on around you. I have found that I do not need to run the tractor at full PTO rpm when using the winch. The cable will come in a little slower but it is a little safer I think.

    Randy

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    Default Re: Using a logging winch?

    Great news on your purchase - Now we need pictures and a full review.

    YOUARE has given some great advice to you - check out the link below as there are some good accessories to use with your winch and the pictures will give you a good idea of some options.
    Choker hooks are much better than a regular hook, and the metal rods make it much easier to fish the choker chains under logs. The snatch block works great for angled pulls, although it is $$$.

    These items can be purchased from many different dealers -

    www.threeriversforestry.com/Farmi_Skidding_Winches_Time.htm


    FYI - I run about 1500 RPM's when using mine. I also let all the cable out and pulled a lighterweight log back in the first time I used mine.

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    Default Re: Using a logging winch?

    Have fun
    You can usually get grade 70 chain and choker hooks at Mardens if you don't have another source.
    There are winching references available that might be helpful....keep the load low and try not to get hung up! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Using a logging winch?

    Thanks a lot!

    I get it... once I could match the picture to the description... an epiphany!

    I have 3- 25 ft lengths of 3/8 chain with standard chain hook on both ends (Mardens--not grade 70--next down--cheaper than 5/16 grade 70 & greater breaking strength) which I'd intended to use for hauling before I sold a camper & could get the proper tool for the job...

    The chokers & slots are made for 5/16--or at least have enough powder coat to preclude sliding 3/8 in them at this point. A trip to Mardens is definitely in order today...

    I'd love to post some pics... I have a digital camera & will take some today after the MS walk... I have no idea how to post a pic though [img]/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]... I'll have to do a search

    Only one review so far: Sweet J#$*$ that thing is HEAVY! I will be ignoring the urge to shift it around by hand again now that it's tractor accessible! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

    Thanks a lot again! [img]/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Using a logging winch?

    Nice winch, it'll serve you well.

    The hook which 1bush2hog described is available at Labonville for $5.95. I have 4 of these on 5' lengths of 5/16" chain, which I purchased at Mardens.
    In addition to the advice already given, park on a level surface and make sureyour brake is set solidly. Stand off to the side of your tractor, because if the log snags it may pull the machine backwards. That was especially a problem this winter, working on frozen ground with no snow. Always wear your hard hat and don't allow anyone within 2 tree lengths between the tractor and the tree you're bringing in.

    Read your owner's manual.

    Oh yeah, don't forget the pics.

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    Default Re: Using a logging winch?

    Heavy yes!....think of it this way. If you weld a receiver hitch to it you will have already taken care of two very common TBN projects. 1) weight box 2) a receiver hitch attachment.

    Another thought is that if you plow snow with your tractor...if you ever happen to get stuck you are all set to winch yourself out...of course that is just a theoretical use [img]/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

    Yes pictures please....so those of us with museum implements can drool

    have fun

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    Default Re: Using a logging winch?

    Google on Farmi Winch and visit the various top hitters. Several have online references including good views of equipment and rigging commonly used. Also, the Farmi owners manual (available online) has a pretty good "how to" section.

    Have fun and be safe! Pete

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