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    Default Middlebuster Vs. Subsoiler

    Okay, I've been waiting for my local tractor supply type place (Gebo's) to get in a subsoiler. They still haven't but they got in a middlebuster. I went ahead and bought it and switched out the shank to a subsoiler type chisel point. I asked them what the difference was between the subsoiler and the middlebuster because the middlebuster was $106 vs. the subsoiler was $129 and they didn't know.

    Looking at the king kutter site it looks like the difference is that the subsoiler is a little longer than the middlebuster. (other than the point which can be switched out of course) Also it looks like the angle on the middlebuster point might be a little more than the angle on the subsoiler.



    Per the specs on their site the subsoiler also weighs 114lbs vs the middlebuster at 80lbs.

    I'm trying to decide if I should return the middlebuster and wait for a subsoiler or just keep the middlebuster.

    Right now I plan on using it for burying some drip irrigation lines. Our frost line is 12" here so the subsoiler would actually be able to get the lines down below the frost line and I'm not sure if the middlebuster would or not.

    I'm leaning toward just returning the middlebuster and waiting on a subsoiler or driving 50 miles to another Gebo's and getting it there (it shows to be in stock there but I would call before I went to make sure).

    Thanks for any input.

    Nathan

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    Default Re: Middlebuster Vs. Subsoiler

    Last August I bought the KK XB middle buster/sub-soiler combo from TSC for $135. Northern Tool has them on sale for $130.

    KK XB

    I've used both attachments to dig trenches for irrigation pipe with my 21hp kubota B7510HST. No problem digging trenches 6" deep in one pass since the ground is soft due to all the rain up here in the North Valley. Use multiple passes to dig deeper.

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    Default Re: Middlebuster Vs. Subsoiler

    The points are interchangeable on these as well. I'm just trying to decide if I need the longer subsoiler bar vs. the middlebuster bar. There are about 30 different styles of points that will fit on either of the bars.

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    Default Re: Middlebuster Vs. Subsoiler

    Any good subsoiler should have a shearpin in the main beam. I dont see one in the one pictured?--Ken Sweet

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    Default Re: Middlebuster Vs. Subsoiler

    Could you explain a little further? Where would the shearpin would be located exactly? I am on your website now trying to figure this out looking at your equipment.

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    Default Re: Middlebuster Vs. Subsoiler

    I just looked at a Gearmore website - they call them single shank rippers and they show three of them, all stating they have shear bolt protection. From 85# to 240 #.

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    Default Re: Middlebuster Vs. Subsoiler

    I stopped back in today to buy some Trans Hydraulic Fluid and they are going to do an interstore transfer and get the subsoiler from the other town brought in for me and I'm going to switch out my middlebuster for it.

    I think for an extra $20 it will be good to have the option of digging down deeper if I need to. I can always raise it up if I don't want it to dig that deep.

    Looking at the pictures on the gearmore site, you could probably rig up a sheerbolt where you attach the subsoiler to the toplink. I would think it would be about as effective as the shearbolts they have built into the shaft.

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    Default Re: Middlebuster Vs. Subsoiler

    Not to be a know-it-all but that KIng Cutter subsoiler pictured there is not a good one at all. I have an old one, must have came from the Ford Tractor dealership because it looks like Ford Blue paint on it. The one I have is long, not sure how long but behind my Century 3045 with the lift all the way up it is barely off the ground. If you lower it and back up, it will trip backwards thus putting it high enough to drive around without it hanging in the ground, or highway. Then as you drop it down and go forward it unfolds and starts digging in. Also the one I have is knife blade shaped, a fairly thin but wide blade. It will actually cut roots into. The way the tip is made and angled out it will run deep and break the ground open, looks just like a giant mole has tunneled through the garden. It also breaks/cuts roots into and will stop the tractor unless it is in 4wd.If it hangs you can back up and trip it loose. It is very heavy made, unlike the one in the photo. Anyone interested I can take a pic.

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    Default Re: Middlebuster Vs. Subsoiler

    Each company has a little different way of using the shearpin. Most are in the toplink bracket or in the main beam of the subsoiler--Ken Sweet

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    Default Re: Middlebuster Vs. Subsoiler

    I'm interested. I would like to see a picture.

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