Picking up equipment by a stranger

[sandman2234]

This post was generated by me to help ease the mind of Wayne Freeman who purchased a Duragrader and never received it. I, as a new member told him that I had just come thru Mississippi, and would probably return. When I got ready to go back thru, I contacted Wayne and started this post.
I contacted the local sherrifs office and found that I could be arrested for tresspassing even though the place was suppposed to be a business. Both Wayne and I were ignored by the seller almost right up to my departure. I received a phone call and was told to come ahead and pick it up, which I did. I asked what time they opened Monday, and he told me they would load it 24/7, to just come on. I arrived around midnight on Sunday night and the duragrader was sitting on the forks of the forklift ready to be loaded into my truck. I hauled it to La, Ark, Ok, back thru Ms, to Birmingham, Al and then home. I contacted Wayne and we both departed heading towards the middle of Ga, where we both dropped off at an exit and unloaded/loaded it .
Wayne graciously contributed towards my fuel costs and I offered some opinions and advise towards the duragrader.
The seller didn't seem as bad as most of us had anticipated, in my opinion, just a guy trying to get back out of a hole caused by the hurricane Katrina.
To have lost what they did, and get back in business would be a feat in itself. Ignoring a paid in full customer was a very big mistake, one that will probaby cost them many customers in the future.
I wish them luck, and appreciate your responses to my posts.
Thanks, David from jax

Here is the followup from Wayne Freeman, done while I was working to get back online from a computer that wouldn't boot.
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Sandman2234

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[sandman2234]

This post was generated by me to help ease the mind of Wayne Freeman who purchased a Duragrader and never received it. I, as a new member told him that I had just come thru Mississippi, and would probably return. When I got ready to go back thru, I contacted Wayne and started this post.
I contacted the local sherrifs office and found that I could be arrested for tresspassing even though the place was suppposed to be a business. Both Wayne and I were ignored by the seller almost right up to my departure. I received a phone call and was told to come ahead and pick it up, which I did. I asked what time they opened Monday, and he told me they would load it 24/7, to just come on. I arrived around midnight on Sunday night and the duragrader was sitting on the forks of the forklift ready to be loaded into my truck. I hauled it to La, Ark, Ok, back thru Ms, to Birmingham, Al and then home. I contacted Wayne and we both departed heading towards the middle of Ga, where we both dropped off at an exit and unloaded/loaded it .
Wayne graciously contributed towards my fuel costs and I offered some opinions and advise towards the duragrader.
The seller didn't seem as bad as most of us had anticipated, in my opinion, just a guy trying to get back out of a hole caused by the hurricane Katrina.
To have lost what they did, and get back in business would be a feat in itself. Ignoring a paid in full customer was a very big mistake, one that will probaby cost them many customers in the future.
I wish them luck, and appreciate your responses to my posts.
Thanks, David from jax

Here is the followup from Wayne Freeman, done while I was working to get back online from a computer that wouldn't boot.
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Sandman2234

MikePA: Please review your message before posting it. It's simple not to create a long link that widens the entire thread. Just insert a descriptive word or two between the {url=http://whatever}<font color="red">Enter words here</font>{/url} instead of the entire URL. Replace parentheses {} with square brackets in previous example. Alternatively, if you use the Instant Markup language URL link, the first prompt is for the URL. The second prompt is for a description. Do not simply paste in the URL again. Type a short description of the link. Note: Following standard Internet protocols, bolding is for emphasis and should not be confused with all capital letters, which represents shouting. Also, this instruction is done in public so that others may learn as well.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Good on you for doing what you did.

Good on all of you for handling a bad situation like gentlemen, which in my opinion, has a lot to do with why things worked out as good as they did.

I'm especially impressed with the compassion you both are showing for someone who would probably rather have had shipped right on time, as opposed to the twist life threw at him. (The dealer)

Anyone can make a mistake. It takes a good man to FIX that mistake.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Good on you for doing what you did.

Good on all of you for handling a bad situation like gentlemen, which in my opinion, has a lot to do with why things worked out as good as they did.

I'm especially impressed with the compassion you both are showing for someone who would probably rather have had shipped right on time, as opposed to the twist life threw at him. (The dealer)

Anyone can make a mistake. It takes a good man to FIX that mistake.

 

[grafpatrick]

Someone mentioned hauling a tractor in a horse trailer. I guess it all depends on the specific trailer, but does the floor need reinforcing to handle a 2500 lb tractor and loader?
John Churchill

 

[grafpatrick]

Someone mentioned hauling a tractor in a horse trailer. I guess it all depends on the specific trailer, but does the floor need reinforcing to handle a 2500 lb tractor and loader?
John Churchill

 

[sandman2234]

I think you will get more opinions of hauling a tractor in a horse trailer if you start a new post with that. However, I will give it a shot.
A large bull can typically go to at least that weight, and that footprint is located on a slightly smaller base (footprint size), and can often be accompanied by other animals in the same trailer. Dual axles usually are a sign that the trailer is rated for at least that much weight, and should hold it. Actual condition of the flooring and crossmembers from possible years of being hosed down with acid will have weakened the trailer, so without a visual inspection, it really is hard to tell.
Are you sure about the weight of the tractor? How about the implements with it?
David from jax

 

[sandman2234]

I think you will get more opinions of hauling a tractor in a horse trailer if you start a new post with that. However, I will give it a shot.
A large bull can typically go to at least that weight, and that footprint is located on a slightly smaller base (footprint size), and can often be accompanied by other animals in the same trailer. Dual axles usually are a sign that the trailer is rated for at least that much weight, and should hold it. Actual condition of the flooring and crossmembers from possible years of being hosed down with acid will have weakened the trailer, so without a visual inspection, it really is hard to tell.
Are you sure about the weight of the tractor? How about the implements with it?
David from jax

 

[Reg]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Someone mentioned hauling a tractor in a horse trailer. I guess it all depends on the specific trailer, but does the floor need reinforcing to handle a 2500 lb tractor and loader?
John Churchill )</font>

I mentioned that I sometimes have horse trailer space available.
2500 should be no problem in either of my trailers, even the "small" one could take a couple of 2,000 animals and not be overloaded.
For my OWN use it would get a bit tricky, my tractor is about 4,000 lbs and the loader adds 1300 and if I ever fill the tires...
I think the floor would be just fine, but I havn't (YET) figured how I'd get it up the ramp and not have the ramp hinges suffer.

If I ever try to carry that tractor in a horse trailer I will almost certainly put down a couple of long 2x12 boards to spread the load of the rear wheels over several floor joists.

Just BTW, Friesians can go to 1800 lb or more, Clydesdales between 1800 and 2350 according to ther position in the team, Percherons similar, Belgians ? I don't know.
Anyway, 'ossies can be HEAVY and about 60% of their weight is carried on their forelegs, i.e. on ONE floor joist and if they're standing two across thats 60% of the weight of two horses on one floor joist - well, maybe between two floor joists. Point is, horse trailer floors have to be strong anyway.

 

[Reg]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Someone mentioned hauling a tractor in a horse trailer. I guess it all depends on the specific trailer, but does the floor need reinforcing to handle a 2500 lb tractor and loader?
John Churchill )</font>

I mentioned that I sometimes have horse trailer space available.
2500 should be no problem in either of my trailers, even the "small" one could take a couple of 2,000 animals and not be overloaded.
For my OWN use it would get a bit tricky, my tractor is about 4,000 lbs and the loader adds 1300 and if I ever fill the tires...
I think the floor would be just fine, but I havn't (YET) figured how I'd get it up the ramp and not have the ramp hinges suffer.

If I ever try to carry that tractor in a horse trailer I will almost certainly put down a couple of long 2x12 boards to spread the load of the rear wheels over several floor joists.

Just BTW, Friesians can go to 1800 lb or more, Clydesdales between 1800 and 2350 according to ther position in the team, Percherons similar, Belgians ? I don't know.
Anyway, 'ossies can be HEAVY and about 60% of their weight is carried on their forelegs, i.e. on ONE floor joist and if they're standing two across thats 60% of the weight of two horses on one floor joist - well, maybe between two floor joists. Point is, horse trailer floors have to be strong anyway.