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    Default Rotatillers ?? What is the pro/con of ......

    I have seen on line that there are two types of rotatillers in regards to the rotation ...... forward as the most common , and reverse rotation , which gives a better job of one pass in heavy to medium soil , clay base so water can be a problem ? Will be looking to hook it up to a new , first time tractor this spring ? of a JD 5320 64hp / 55hp -pto and am now working on the toy lists......
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    Epic Contributor Bird's Avatar
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    Default Re: Rotatillers ?? What is the pro/con of ......

    Pros & Cons of forward vs. counter-rotating tillers?

    Forward turning can sometimes try to push a small tractor forward faster than you want to go - no problem; use lowest gear, even 4WD if necessary.

    Counter-rotating tries to pull back on the tractor and may require a little more tractor power to pull it.

    When you reach the end of a row and pick up the tiller to turn, if you do not disengage the PTO, the counter-rotating tiller tends to throw more dirt forward and make a small mound just past where you stopped tilling - again not a problem that the operator cannot handle. Of course a forward turning one may make a little mound at the start of the row if you're not moving forward as you lower it into the ground.

    If you encounter a solid object, buried big rock, root, etc., the forward turning tiller tines come down on top of it, the tiller bounces up in the air and rides over it - usually with no damage. The counter-rotating tiller tines are coming from under or behind the object and there seems to be a little more liklihood of breaking a tine or shear pin, or slipping a slip clutch.

    Folks who know, or should know, more than I seem to think the counter-rotating tillers do a better job in fewer passes.

    And the biggest difference - price! I've never understood why a counter-rotating tiller should cost so much more than a forward turning one. Maybe someone else can explain that.


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    Default Re: Rotatillers ?? What is the pro/con of ......

    I agree with Bird, as usual. I would rather put the money into a high-end forward turning tiller, with durability in mind. However, I have never used a reverse tiller, so I will stop here.
    Either way, I would take a look at a scarifier. It's an inexpensive implement that, used prior to tilling, can save a lot of wear and tear on the tiller. I am currently using the scarifiers on my box scraper for this, but the front blade of the scraper limits the depth of cut. The Landpride SF2577 scarifier looks good to me.
    You might also want to consider a drag (pull-type) disc. That tractor is capable of handling a pretty good one, if you get R1's and/or FWD.

    <font color=green>stan</font color=green>

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    Default Re: Rotatillers ?? What is the pro/con of ......

    BWa
    I have a <font color=orange>kubota</font color=orange> reverse rotation tiller. Bird has stated all the pros and cons of both systems. One of the reasons for extra cost for a reverse rotation tiller is it has to be made heavier. With the tines pushing rock and other debris forward. A rock can be thrown up between top of tiller and a tine. If there is not enough clearance the tiller will stall. My tiller is 50". I was able to stall out my 2910 tractor whenever this happened. I have since adjusted slip clutch to correct this problem.
    The weight of a 55" Land Pride reverse rotation tiller is 750 lbs. A forward rotation tiller of the same size is 200 lbs. less.
    Check out this <font color=red>illustration</font color=red> of how a reverse rotation tiller works




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    Default Re: Rotatillers ?? What is the pro/con of ......

    In that this will be doing field work ......(N.England home grown rocks ) I am getting the impression that I best stick to the common forward rotation ?? Unless there is any other advanage
    to counter rotation ??


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    Default Re: Rotatillers ?? What is the pro/con of ......

    i agree


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    Default Re: Rotatillers ?? What is the pro/con of ......

    BWa
    I missed one important item in my post. Would I buy another Reverse Rotation Rototiller? I was all set to purchase a Forward Rotation Tiller. The cost was going to be $1600 to $1800 for a 55 to 60" model. My <font color=orange>kubota</font color=orange> dealer had a demo Reverse Tine Tiller for $1800. It has a full warranty and he delivered for that price. If I hadn't found this deal I would have a Forward Rotation Tiller. I don't plan on buying another tiller, so it looks like I'm going to like my Reverse Rotation Rototiller.

    I have tilled about acre of my land since I bought tiller. I have hauled away 2 FEL buckets of rocks so far.[img]/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif[/img] I would think I would have just as many or more with a Forward Rotation Tiller. I have gotten a rock caught between tines and top of tiller a dozen times or more. Just push in clutch and rocks fall out of tiller. It sure does a great with one pass. But the going is slow.




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    Default Re: Rotatillers ?? What is the pro/con of ......

    Interesting point about the weight. I was looking at a KK 48" tiller for my B7500 and they are ~600lb. As opposed to a Caroni brand 48" tiller being ~400lb. Does anyone know if the KK is counterrotating?. And any opinions on either of these two brands.


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