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    Default Hydraulic question

    I finally bought the 3-point splitter I've thought about for awhile, and have a question about the hydraulic setup on my TC33D. The rear remote is controlled by a lever which returns to center (closed) after being moved either fore or aft. The splitter, of course, has its own hydraulic lever. The splitter is only powered when the lever on the tractor is open, at which point the splitter hydraulic control works normally. If I was to keep the remove open and control flow only on the splitter, would I be putting inappropriate stress on the system? And in the long run, what do I do to address this so's it works the way it should?

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Hydraulic question

    rmorgan - The manual that came with your splitter should identify the valve on the splitter as "open center" or "closed center". If it works properly when someone holds the tractor's remote valve open, the it's got to be "open center", so you can just bungee-cord the tractor lever into the on position or hold it open in some other way. Just remember to release it before you remove the splitter lines from the tractor. Alternatively, you would have to add another line with a needle-valve or something just for the splitter, which is more trouble than it's worth, I think.

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    Default Re: Hydraulic question

    Mark--

    Thanks a lot!! The splitter actually came with parts to change the hydraulic innards, which I don't want to do (talks about vices, pressing out little parts, etc.) unless I have to . . . I didn't want to use the "bungee" word in my original post, but that is sure what I had in mind--just didn't want to blow anything up. Thanks so much!!

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    Default Re: Hydraulic question

    rmorgan - You're welcome! Never be embarassed about a productive use for a bungee cord. Some of my best ideas involved bungees. I'm not sure if that says more about bungees or more about my ideas, though... [img]/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Hydraulic question

    I've got this personal hangup about bungee cords; don't like them (maybe it's just that I figure anything that stretches that much may also break easily).[img]/w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif[/img] However, I've seen some messages posted on that other forum by people who do exactly what Mark said, and under those circumstances, I probably would, too.[img]/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Hydraulic question

    Bird - I haven't had very good results with the cloth/elastic ones, but I love the rubber ones. Spray 'em with a UV-blocking rubber protectant and they'll last a long, long time, losing very little elasticity.

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    Default Re: Hydraulic question

    Bird--You'll probably recall from some of the early traffic on the TC's that they actually come with an "official" New Holland bungee cord to hold the hydraulic lines out of the way of the loader. ([img]/w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif[/img] if you're a NH engineer) Who knows--maybe this new application will find its way into the next model year!!!![img]/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif[/img][img]/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif[/img] By the way--the TSC/Huskee splitter seems to work well (a bit slow, but that's as expected), and it comes with its own stand and works both horizontally and vertically.

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    Default Re: Hydraulic question

    Mark, I've had some poor luck with the cloth/elastic myself and think the rubber ones are better, but my brother has mentioned finding some tremendous price differences different places on the black rubber ones and we don't know if there's a difference in quality or whether it's just their pricing. However, I haven't worried about it too much, since I have exactly one black rubber bungee cord and it's used only inside the shop building.[img]/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif[/img]

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    Rick, I not only remember it, but have a cousin who has a TC29D and I was at his place when they delivered it. I couldn't believe that rinky-dink arrangement, and I think that alone would have kept me from buying a New Holland.[img]/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Hydraulic question

    Morgan,
    Did the parts that came with your splitter give you the option of either making your splitter open or closed? Mine came this way. All mine was was changing the input on the splitter itself. I changed mine to open and ran it off of my open scv that I use for my backhoe and post pounder. This is alot easier than having to tie your hydraulics open all the time. If you don't have the open scv then mine also came with the materials to change the splitter to a closed system so that I could run it off of the normal scv. I'm pretty sure that's what the parts are for. Anyway that's the way mine was.

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