Backhoe John Deere 47 or 48 backhoe's

[youngbk]

I was wondering if someone could give me some insight on the 47 or 48 backhoe's for the compact tractors? I have a 4410 that I run a mowing business with and I would like to expand. I have been told the small backhoe's are not that effective and that they are really hard on the tractor. I am aware of the subframe kit but would like some information from any one who may have spent some series hours with one of these machines.
Thanks for your input

 

[jeffinsgf]

I was wondering if someone could give me some insight on the 47 or 48 backhoe's for the compact tractors? I have a 4410 that I run a mowing business with and I would like to expand. I have been told the small backhoe's are not that effective and that they are really hard on the tractor. I am aware of the subframe kit but would like some information from any one who may have spent some series hours with one of these machines.
Thanks for your input

I don't know who you've been taking advise from, but I think they are way off base. I have a 48 back hoe for my 4410, and I can tell you it is capable of some pretty serious work, and if it is hard on the tractor, I sure haven't seen it yet.

I have extracted coffee table sized rocks, 5 inches thick, from red clay. I have extracted sycamore roots with 18 inch trunks from the same clay. I have dug out and knocked down over a dozen 12 inch cedars. I have dug several hundred yards of trench through clay, sandstone, and limestone. I have dug out bases for about a dozen irrigation manifolds. I cut a 2 foot deep, 20 foot long trench through nearly solid, striated limestone. And, I have done all this with me not breaking a sweat, and the 4410 never running faster than a high idle.

On top of that, it takes about 5 minutes to put the hoe on and 3 minutes to take it off, if I am taking my time. If I rush, it takes 8 and 5

The 48 hoe is the second best investment I have ever made. The 4410 is number one.

 

[youngbk]

Thank you for your reply Jeff, That is very encouraging. Do you have the subframe kit on your 4410?

 

[jeffinsgf]

Thank you for your reply Jeff, That is very encouraging. Do you have the subframe kit on your 4410?

Yes. I don't think you can add a 48 without the subframe kit. The 48 (and all the JD CUT backhoes, I believe) mount to the tractor via the rockshaft. The rockshaft only lifts the hoe into place. Then pins are installed into the frame and the rockshaft pressure is released. There is no strain on the rockshaft hydraulics while the hoe is on.

 

[BobQ]

My Branson has a 48 hoe on it,( Amerequip makes the hoe) I also have the sub frame. It is excelent! Now it will not do the work that my 310 will do, but they are two different classes of tractor. I think you will be very happy with it!

Bob

 

[youngbk]

Thank you for your input.....

 

[dmccarty]

Youngbk,

I have the JD 48 on my 4700. I think backhoes can be hard on tractor if mounted on a 3PH. I don't see how it would be hard on the tractor with the subframe. I have dug trenches for a retaining wall foundation, dug up lots of little tree stumps, and a good dozen or two big stumps. The stumps have ranged in size from 3-4 inches up to 36+ inch oaks and pines. Some with shallow roots and some that seemed to have roots connecting with their Chinese cousins. Digging stumps is much harder than digging trenches.

The 48 BH is "small" compared to a full size backhoe. The backhoe on the JD 110 is much more powerful than the 48. But the 48 can get the job done. Its just might take longer.

Later,
Dan

 

[youngbk]

Thanks Dan,
I will be getting a 48 on my 4410. I appreciate everyones input. This is a great website.