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    Members,

    Mid-summer last year I traded my kubota B7800 for the Kubota Grand L4330 with an LA853 loader. At the last moment traded back the Kubota bucket for a new L.R. Long 4 in 1 72" bucket at 515 pounds. I am not the least bit sorry I added about 215 pounds more at the end of my quick attach 853 loader arms. In the deal I agreed to a used 500 pound generic box scraper thinking it would suffice as primary loader ballast. Well, we dig a lot of clay on our "mountain top," usually uphill or downhill and I need some more ballast to easy the pucker factor when piling full buckets of dirt at 10 feet high. My thinking is a heavier box scraper. My best friend of 33 years (wife) says I should have bought the Kubota box scraper to start with...Any suggestions of brand and weight ( or other alternatives) would be appreciated.

    Bill
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    Kubota GL4330 with power top & tilt, triple remote valves, 853 FEL Q/A, WR Long 6' 4 n 1 bucket, WR Long 5' grapple, Q/A pallet forks, 6' Land Pride box scraper, 6' Kodiak rough mower, Farmi log winch & 9" Vably chipper. Kubota BH 90 with American Equipment thumb. JD425 mower and a Chetek Pug (4X4 articluated "wheel barrow")

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    Default Re: box scraper as ballast

    Most box blades are going to weigh around 400-600 lbs. for 5.5-6' models. I do have an older gannon 82" industrial box blade which weighs 1000 lbs but those are quite expensive. On my smaller box blades, I will often hang old 75-100 lb suitcase weights on the blade for more weight. That is probably your cheapest solution. You could also load your rear tires with fluid which is not too expensive.

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    Default Re: box scraper as ballast

    I have a little 42" Gannon box for my BX and use the bb as ballast. When I need more weight, I use some boards to help wedge some old empty 5 gal. steel paint cans into the box. These I fill with some big river cobble rocks I have in the back yard. I can about double the ballast by doing this.

    You could possibly have a welder make and attach some kind of recetptacle(s) to the rear of the BB. Into the receptacle would go a removable verticle rod/pin. On this/these rod/pins you could stack some old barbell weights that you might find in a thrift store.

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    Default Re: box scraper as ballast

    I do about the same thing as Tom H. I have two old 5 gallon buckst that I fill with rocks (iron stone). I put them on my KK 48" BB. The blade wieghs about 300lbs. I bet I add at least 150 to 200 extra pounds.

    Attached is what another TBN member did. Three 5 gallon buckets full of concrete. Each one runs about 100 lbs.
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    Default Re: box scraper as ballast

    Gentlemen,

    Thank you for the ideas. I have fluid in the tires. I have some Farmall wheel weights that could be hung on the box. I thought about visiting my steel salvage dealer for some thick steel plate that could be bolted or welded to the back of the box. I'm thinking another 300 pounds would probably do the job.

    Bill
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    Kubota GL4330 with power top & tilt, triple remote valves, 853 FEL Q/A, WR Long 6' 4 n 1 bucket, WR Long 5' grapple, Q/A pallet forks, 6' Land Pride box scraper, 6' Kodiak rough mower, Farmi log winch & 9" Vably chipper. Kubota BH 90 with American Equipment thumb. JD425 mower and a Chetek Pug (4X4 articluated "wheel barrow")

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    Default Re: box scraper as ballast

    I have a Grand L4330 with a Gearmore 2G2 72 inch boxblade which specs at 860 lbs.
    http://www.gearmore.com/catpdf/Cat_P77_P81.pdf

    I never knew how useful it was as ballast until I used the FEL with the blade removed.

    Zeuspaul

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    Default Re: box scraper as ballast

    ive seen smaller suitecase weights hung right off the side plates.... (although some have mentioned them getting pushed off as the box fills up with dirt (if that should occure at all)

    a more permant solution would be to fab up a rack ontop of the box to take the weights or Railroad rail etc.
    Steve - TC33D 4x4 FEL, dual rear remotes with toys

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    Default Re: box scraper as ballast

    I added (6) 44# suitcase wts and (2)75# dumbells to my box blade for a total of 414#. My blade weighs 550#. Blade + weights = 964#
    It was best bangs for the buck I've put on my L3830.
    The box blade digs better and provides great ballast.

    I have had a suitcase wt get knocked off so I bolted them together ( I have 3 on each side of the box blade) and and haven't lost one since.
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    Default Re: box scraper as ballast

    Good luck and let us know what you did. I think someone already mentioned railroad iron, but here is another idea. Everyone (I think) can get some of those cheap little tires on rims that come as spares, fill them with fluid and hang them on the back. Weld on a piece or two of pipe, slip tires down over them---just like barbell weights, only larger. Can usually be found free at junkyards and tire shops.
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    Default Re: box scraper as ballast

    Have posted pics before of my ballast box built of 2 by lumber that holds 2000 lbs of rock sand and goes on the 3 point. Cost little and offloads the FEL very nicely and gets great traction. Also in the process of adding CI centers to the wheels which will add another 1000 lbs plus.
    With the ballast box on there is very little wheel slip even when taking overflow bites with FEL and the 72 inch bucket. Now I can dig faster with the FEL than with the backhoe. If it has to be deep then I make a ramp and continue to enlarge to get to the depth needed and it is still quicker that way.

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