Tiller Will a 9n ford handle a 5 foot tiller

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Renze said:
The ones with the Standard diesel corporation engine (also used in certain A-C tractors) come cheap because the engines are indirect injected and dont have glow plugs. You have to use lots of ether and a fair amount of luck, to get them going when the temperatures drop. Next to that, their reliability was poor too. That's what makes them cheap in the market.

The ones with the Perkins P3 engine you find in Europe, left the factory as a Petroleum tractor. Frank Perkins foresaw the European Diesel hype and offered his P3 engine as a complete conversion kit with instructions, to convert the petroleum 35 to Diesel using his P3 engine.

The popularity of the P3 diesel conversion on petroleum tractors, made MF decide to change over to Perkins for the factory Diesel versions as well.

Nowadays, the number of P3 conversed 35's exceeds the original petroleum version by a factor 10. The Perkins P3 conversed tractors are worth double that of the original MF diesel version, which is quite something: A version that wasnt even factory original, made it to collectors item and the original had, and still has, little popularity.

A few Standard diesel Fergusons made their way to the US, but the P3 never made it here in any numbers. Some collectors have imported them. The first SUCCESSFUL Diesel Massey's were equipped with the AD3-152. They were a purpose-built diesel that was later offered in a gas configuration.

Those Standard diesels were a bear to start when they were new, and darn near impossible to start once they got a few hours of hard work under their belt. You can't hardly GIVE one away unless it's to an unsuspecting buyer.
 
   / Will a 9n ford handle a 5 foot tiller #12  
RollingsFarms said:
a local business here sells reconditioned/rebuilt Ford 8n's and 9n's as well. some gas, some diesel. they sell mostly to folks who need a small affordable tractor to do a little bush hogging with but dont have or want to spend the money on brand new equipment or even expensive used equipment.

A diesel powered 9N/8N????? Never heard of such. Is it a re-powered tractor? (re-fit with aftermarket engine?)
 
   / Will a 9n ford handle a 5 foot tiller #13  
RollingsFarms said:
a local business here sells reconditioned/rebuilt Ford 8n's and 9n's as well. some gas, some diesel. they sell mostly to folks who need a small affordable tractor to do a little bush hogging with but dont have or want to spend the money on brand new equipment or even expensive used equipment.
And they are suitable for that purpose, they are also suitable for pulling a small plow, or seeding a food plot. But there are some tasks they really are not well suited for and tilling is one of the tasks that they are not really well suited for. Given the gearing of the 9N, the tractor might be able to till reaonably effectively only in some soil conditions, and even then probably should be tilled several times. I would also be very concered about the horsepower of a 9N running a 5' tiller because many of them are pretty worn out and a tiller can draw a lot of HP, especially in heavy soils.
 
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Farmwithjunk said:
A diesel powered 9N/8N????? Never heard of such. Is it a re-powered tractor? (re-fit with aftermarket engine?)


yep they are rebuilds...not totally sure about putting aftermarket engines in them though, although that would make sense. as i was told when i stopped by and asked about them oneday, the manager told me he was selling the 8n's with a 3cyl diesel that put out 22(engine hp) and also had a gas motor which was about $1,500 difference(less). the 9n's were said to have a 27hp diesel (no gas option)and i belive the price for those were a little under $5,000?? this conversation only lasted about 5 mins because i was only in the store buying another pruduct and just happen to ask out of intrest about the tractors. were the 8n and 9n's only gas powered?
 
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Bob_Skurka said:
And they are suitable for that purpose, they are also suitable for pulling a small plow, or seeding a food plot. But there are some tasks they really are not well suited for and tilling is one of the tasks that they are not really well suited for. Given the gearing of the 9N, the tractor might be able to till reaonably effectively only in some soil conditions, and even then probably should be tilled several times. I would also be very concered about the horsepower of a 9N running a 5' tiller because many of them are pretty worn out and a tiller can draw a lot of HP, especially in heavy soils.


Bob,

the owners that have purchased them that i'm aware of seem to enjoy them for their intended use, as you stated. im not too familiar with people using tillers in my area, its mostly small disc harrows. the small ford's that ive seen passing by on trailers and such are always attatched to a bush hog. good little cheap tractor for someone who wants a tractor to play around with but doesnt need or want to spend great ammounts of money. alot of sales for these little tractors in the local classified papers and such.
 
   / Will a 9n ford handle a 5 foot tiller #16  
I have a TC29D with a 5 foot tiller. And in my soil I just about have to come to a stop at times to keep it running. Once through no problem but the 9N you just won't be able to do that. I would recomend a NO on the tiller and 9N combination.


murph
 
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RollingsFarms said:
the owners that have purchased them that i'm aware of seem to enjoy them for their intended use
I'm not knocking them, in fact that N series tractors are still very useful tractors. They have their limits and they have their strengths. They are also very popular in my area of the country, sell for reasonable prices, and are capable of doing plenty of work. The 9N specifically, is among the least capable of the N series when it comes for using a tiller. As the thread is specifically asking about using a tiller with a 9N, it seems like most of the answers have recommended against it, or if they suggest it can be use, it is a very limited set of circumstances that most seem to suggest it might work for.
 
   / Will a 9n ford handle a 5 foot tiller #18  
RollingsFarms said:
yep they are rebuilds...not totally sure about putting aftermarket engines in them though, although that would make sense. as i was told when i stopped by and asked about them oneday, the manager told me he was selling the 8n's with a 3cyl diesel that put out 22(engine hp) and also had a gas motor which was about $1,500 difference(less). the 9n's were said to have a 27hp diesel (no gas option)and i belive the price for those were a little under $5,000?? this conversation only lasted about 5 mins because i was only in the store buying another pruduct and just happen to ask out of intrest about the tractors. were the 8n and 9n's only gas powered?

If they have a diesel OR a 3-cylinder, they're aftermarket OR another barnd engine. No such thing as a 9N/2N/8N diesel from Ford OR a 3-banger Ford from those days
 
   / Will a 9n ford handle a 5 foot tiller #19  
I ran a 5 foot tiller behind my Ford two years ago (32 PTO HP). Ran fine in 1st gear low range when tilling forward. Tiller would also switch to reverse tilling and I could not pull it in reverse... to much backword pull.

mark
 
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Bob_Skurka said:
I'm not knocking them, in fact that N series tractors are still very useful tractors. They have their limits and they have their strengths. They are also very popular in my area of the country, sell for reasonable prices, and are capable of doing plenty of work. The 9N specifically, is among the least capable of the N series when it comes for using a tiller. As the thread is specifically asking about using a tiller with a 9N, it seems like most of the answers have recommended against it, or if they suggest it can be use, it is a very limited set of circumstances that most seem to suggest it might work for.


oh i was agreeing with you, just adding something to what you said about the intended uses for this model tractor(tiller not being one of them). sorry i wasnt more clear.
 
 
 
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