Grapeman
Member
- Joined
- Jan 1, 2008
- Messages
- 28
- Location
- Finger Lakes in NY
- Tractor
- MF 135 diesel, Deutz-Allis 6250V w/ cab & 4wd, David Brown 780D, Kubota L4200 4wd w/FEL, Kubota BX2200, MF 533D, 2 JD Gators,Kioti 5510C
Hi, first post altho I have been watching and learning for a while. Not very good with computer so please bear with me.
Bought a new 6x4 Gator in Nov. 2006. Air cooled 20HP Kawasaki 2 cyl. After about 20 hrs. use engine began to break up. Sent it back to dealer who informed me there was gas in oil. Diagnosed as a crankcase ventilation problem. Supposedly fixed and returned in June 07. We use the Gators, (we have two, other is older liquid cooled), a lot on the farm and by Nov. I gave it a full service. Oil was above the full mark again. I was careful to use the correct JD oil and fill exactly to the mid point between the marks on the dipstick. This was at 120 hrs. on meter. We use the Gators a limited amount in the winter. Engine started to break up after about 20 hrs use again. Changed plugs and checked oil. Found crankcase was full to about 1/2 inch above full mark. Smelled of gas and looked thin.Went to different dealer who did considerable research and came up with an answer from John Deere tech site.
According to JD and Kawasaki, " oil dilution from gas in an internal combustion engine is NORMAL." I've had many tractors and other equipment as well as running JD AMT's and gators for almost 20 years and never experienced this problem. JD blames it on operating conditions, poor fuel quality, short/ light operating cycles.cold temps, and ect.
John Deere tech site lists as "Solution Number: 75853". I'm not skilled enough to scan in and attach but maybe someone else is able to locate this and post it
Afraid that I am just too skeptical to believe that engines are so poorly built that this problem is acceptable and that an expensive piece of equipment should have this type of problem.
I'd be interested in the opinions or comments from some of the other TBN'ers.
Bought a new 6x4 Gator in Nov. 2006. Air cooled 20HP Kawasaki 2 cyl. After about 20 hrs. use engine began to break up. Sent it back to dealer who informed me there was gas in oil. Diagnosed as a crankcase ventilation problem. Supposedly fixed and returned in June 07. We use the Gators, (we have two, other is older liquid cooled), a lot on the farm and by Nov. I gave it a full service. Oil was above the full mark again. I was careful to use the correct JD oil and fill exactly to the mid point between the marks on the dipstick. This was at 120 hrs. on meter. We use the Gators a limited amount in the winter. Engine started to break up after about 20 hrs use again. Changed plugs and checked oil. Found crankcase was full to about 1/2 inch above full mark. Smelled of gas and looked thin.Went to different dealer who did considerable research and came up with an answer from John Deere tech site.
According to JD and Kawasaki, " oil dilution from gas in an internal combustion engine is NORMAL." I've had many tractors and other equipment as well as running JD AMT's and gators for almost 20 years and never experienced this problem. JD blames it on operating conditions, poor fuel quality, short/ light operating cycles.cold temps, and ect.
John Deere tech site lists as "Solution Number: 75853". I'm not skilled enough to scan in and attach but maybe someone else is able to locate this and post it
Afraid that I am just too skeptical to believe that engines are so poorly built that this problem is acceptable and that an expensive piece of equipment should have this type of problem.
I'd be interested in the opinions or comments from some of the other TBN'ers.