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    Bronze Member brown1's Avatar
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    ihave a pretty new ct235 that i cultipackedwith for approx.2hrs,after it cooleddown i sprayed off then before i could put it away for the evening a 3"+ rainstorm and when i went out the next day it will not turn over. i thing it is a saftey engage like seat or pto. the lights come on at the instrument panel and when i sit down i can hear something engage but it just will not turn over or even click. i tried jumping it with my truck with same results. i would like figure this out myself because i don't have any good ideas in how to load a dead tractor on my trailer and the closest dealer is about 60 miles away. thanks for any ideas offered.

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    Default Re: notstarting,HELP??????

    Yes, PTO switch must be disengaged or it will not start. It is probably something simple like that. Put range selector in neutral or stick in neutral too, depending if HST or not.
    2010 DK-40se/hst, KL-401 FEL, (reversible cutting edge), Titan Tree Shear. 72" Ratchet Rake. Fit Rite Top-N-Tilt hydraulics & diverter. HLA Series 2000 7' plow, Aquiline MPC rear chains. Samuri Sickle bar.

    2015 Husky AWD Rider 322T Combi 103 deck. Scag Wildcat: Kawasaki 26HP, bagger. Dr. brush mower, & 42" lawn deck, Dr. self propelled, 6.5HP Trimmer mower. Pro-Mow 3 gang, no HP.

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    Bronze Member brown1's Avatar
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    Default Re: notstarting,HELP??????

    i have pissed with range selector and pto i can get the pto light to go on and off so i that shouldn't be it but it does seem like a safety circuit is holding it out. i am going to clear my head and go back out there this afternoon. i will post any findings.

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    Super Member Coyote machine's Avatar
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    '10 Kioti DK 40se/hst KL-401 FEL, loaded tires, KB-2485 bhoe, Tuffline TB160 boxblade, Woods QA forks, MIE Hydraulic bhoe thumb & ripper tooth, Igland 4001 winch, & GR-20 Log Grapple. Woods BBX72" Mower. Diamondplate aluminum canopy.

    Default Re: notstarting,HELP??????

    Try moving the range selector around slightly in the neutral position, while turning the key to crank.There is a lockout switch, which may be out of adjustment, that will not allow starting in gear.
    2010 DK-40se/hst, KL-401 FEL, (reversible cutting edge), Titan Tree Shear. 72" Ratchet Rake. Fit Rite Top-N-Tilt hydraulics & diverter. HLA Series 2000 7' plow, Aquiline MPC rear chains. Samuri Sickle bar.

    2015 Husky AWD Rider 322T Combi 103 deck. Scag Wildcat: Kawasaki 26HP, bagger. Dr. brush mower, & 42" lawn deck, Dr. self propelled, 6.5HP Trimmer mower. Pro-Mow 3 gang, no HP.

    Bunch of STIHL chainsaws: 011x 2, MS192T, MS200T, MS180C, MS230, MS270 (Wood Boss), 038 Farmboss.

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    Default Re: notstarting,HELP??????

    Quote Originally Posted by brown1 View Post
    ihave a pretty new ct235 that i cultipackedwith for approx.2hrs,after it cooleddown i sprayed off then before i could put it away for the evening a 3"+ rainstorm and when i went out the next day it will not turn over. i thing it is a saftey engage like seat or pto. the lights come on at the instrument panel and when i sit down i can hear something engage but it just will not turn over or even click. i tried jumping it with my truck with same results. i would like figure this out myself because i don't have any good ideas in how to load a dead tractor on my trailer and the closest dealer is about 60 miles away. thanks for any ideas offered.
    The only problem I have ever had with my ct235 not starting, is not having the hydrostat pedal centered when trying to start the tractor. Once I accidently stepped on the pedal when dismounting the tractor running with the emergency brake applied. The other time was when the underside of the tractor was packed with snow and the switch underneath the pedal was full of snow and wouldn't snap back. I understand you aren't in the snow, but make sure the switch contact underneath is snapped back in the horizontal position. jp

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    Default Re: notstarting,HELP??????

    i called the dealer and chatted with the service mgr and through some testing of the whole starting circuit it is down to ignition switch or a circuit board underneath the seat. if i turn the ignition to on and jump tge starter out it will stay running. he said he would give me the 2 parts and i can bring back the one that is good. so that should at least save me a 120 mile round trip with my tractor.

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    Default Re: notstarting,HELP??????

    The Bobcat version of the Kioti CK models have PTO, Seat, & HST pedal switches that must close (make contact) to enable start. They do not have the Range Selector switch like Kioti. All 3 switches are supplied 12v power through 5 amp Fuse #7. Check that fuse, the start checking for contact on the 3 Safety Switches. Probably a loose connection that has gotten wet.
    Dennis

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    Bronze Member brown1's Avatar
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    Default Re: notstarting,HELP??????

    well dealer sent me a controllerand i swapped it out and the same thing so from my troubleshooting i would say i has to be the ignition switch so i am just going to take it to the dealer on thursday and the mgr said they would look at it and try and do something right away so i can take it home with me. the dealer has been fantastic to work with and talk to despite my problem. i will post the final fix hopefully on thursday.

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    Default Re: notstarting,HELP??????

    Any update on this - what was the problem?

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    Default Re: notstarting,HELP??????

    sorry about that it was the connector that plugs into the control mod had 2 pins that had gotten corrosion on them, i did notice discoloration on the terminal but i thought it was dielectric grease.

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