Ditch digger - Page 2

Renze · 10-10-2007, 03:56 PM

A force of 1 ripper leg on the side (instead of all 6 or 10 of them spread over the full width) wont hurt the tractor nor the 3pt hitch.

Can you extend one 3pt hitch pull rod to angle the box blade ?
another idea is a kind of plough i've seen road crews use, to plough a pathway along freshly paved asphalt, for kerbstones.
They simply bolt a 2 foot piece of steel plate to a loader bucket and drive along the road edge, with the bucket lip as a gauge over the pavement and the steel plate ploughing a path for the kerbstones at the correct depth.

Maybe you'll just have to tramp the brush first in reverse, then start working the actual dirt...

BTDT · 10-10-2007, 05:51 PM

Is this a private road, or county road? Seems like you need to get the commissioner to do his job. Watch for phone lines and other utilities that might be buried there.

J_J · 10-10-2007, 08:53 PM

Hi David, Why not use your trencher in a sideways position to flip the dirt from the ditch back on the road. The trencher should leave a nice half round trench. Just drive slow.

sandman2234 · 10-11-2007, 10:09 PM

The road is a private road, and up until last year was privately owned property. However the owner quit paying the taxes and the county got it for back taxes. The width doesn't meet the required amount to get it brought up to a real road, which would allow for ditch work and PAVING. BTDT on trying to get some help. The adjoining owners won't donate enough property, so it isn't going to happen that way either.
I have considered J_J's idea, but the U-joints won't allow enough deflection to get the trencher turned sideways enough to cut the channel that you envision. Good idea though!! I do have another one of those wheels and thought about using a pillow block bearing and a straight shaft off the pto. Only problem with that is the same with all the others, which is getting it far enough offset to reach outside the tire track. I could use it for other projects if I thought it would work for this one, but building it for this one probably isn't a good idea.
Putting the boom mower back on the Ford and havng a go at the brush and small trees is probably the best answer, and then just pulling a middlebuster behind the middle of the tractor. That is just a lot of work, especially when doing it for nothing.
David from jax
On Edit:
I started to buy the roadway property for back taxes, but realized that it was always going to be a roadway, and in reality nothing more than a way to spend money (taxes) because nobody is going to want to buy it, should I decide to sell. I can't close it down and hold the access to their houses ransome, so why should anyone want to buy it?
David from jax

toolsorbust · 10-11-2007, 11:06 PM

The road that I live on I maintain I use my scrape blade. my blade turns on two axisis I turn it to about 22 degrees horizontaly then tilt it verticaly 45 degrees. I dont know if that makes sense the way i described. But basicaly it turnes my scraper into a plow, perfect for cleaning as well as cutting ditches.

sandman2234 · 10-12-2007, 08:07 AM

No question, a multiangle scrapper blade would be just what I need for this but unlike Toolsorbust, I don't have one. I might could "borrow" one, but taking the chance of tearing up a borrowed implement doing charity work really isn't a good idea. That is a lose-lose situation for me. I will probably just have to bush hog the edge of the road and work around the larger trees. I can take out the larger trees if I take the Ford over there, but I could be opening a can of worms doing that, so I think maybe just a bush hog and then pull a middle buster behind that may work. Can't hurt...
David from jax

J_J · 10-12-2007, 08:17 AM

a multiangle scrapper blade would be just what I need for this but unlike Toolsorbust, I don't have one

Hi David

I have one.

sandman2234 · 10-12-2007, 03:25 PM

Thanks J_J,
I appreciate it if you would loan it to me, provided I don't do the clearing with the bush hog. I am waiting on a return call from the city to make sure I am not going to be getting in hot water by messing with a road that is now their property. Running the boxblade across it or clearing the ditch is one thing, cutting the brush is another.
David from jax

I looked to see if you had posted anything in the following post, to see if you had an adversion to loaning out implements. Mr.Jimi is on that list, but your not, so hopefully you and I can get together on it.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/o...-neighbor.html

curly · 10-12-2007, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_J

Hi David

I have one.

Way to go JJ. I guess it ain't just a South Carolina thing huh?

gemini5362 · 10-12-2007, 06:09 PM

We have cities here that has ordinances that say if the grass or brush in your yard gets out of hand either you have to cut it or they will and charge you for it. If a city owns the road and they have such an ordinance I would ask them when they are going to clean up their land

10-10-2007, 03:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
Renze Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the Steernbos (Holland) Posts: 1,054	Re: Ditch digger A force of 1 ripper leg on the side (instead of all 6 or 10 of them spread over the full width) wont hurt the tractor nor the 3pt hitch. Can you extend one 3pt hitch pull rod to angle the box blade ? another idea is a kind of plough i've seen road crews use, to plough a pathway along freshly paved asphalt, for kerbstones. They simply bolt a 2 foot piece of steel plate to a loader bucket and drive along the road edge, with the bucket lip as a gauge over the pavement and the steel plate ploughing a path for the kerbstones at the correct depth. Maybe you'll just have to tramp the brush first in reverse, then start working the actual dirt... __________________ Vake bi-j te bange __________________ 1967 Zetor 3011, rebuilt trans, now needs mudguards 1986 Zetor 5245, my old man's tractor, i just own the loader 1996 Volvo 850 TDI 2007 Volvo 440 1.9 TD based dirt buggy, under construction

10-10-2007, 05:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
BTDT Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Texas Posts: 2,201	Re: Ditch digger Is this a private road, or county road? Seems like you need to get the commissioner to do his job. Watch for phone lines and other utilities that might be buried there. __________________ Praise is not something you do to get closer to God, praise is a response to God being close to you.

10-10-2007, 08:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
J_J Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: JACKSONVILLE, FL Posts: 2,030	Re: Ditch digger Hi David, Why not use your trencher in a sideways position to flip the dirt from the ditch back on the road. The trencher should leave a nice half round trench. Just drive slow. __________________ J.J. When I works, I works hard. When I sits and thinks, I goes to sleep. Lets git er done.

10-11-2007, 10:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
sandman2234 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 2,152	Re: Ditch digger The road is a private road, and up until last year was privately owned property. However the owner quit paying the taxes and the county got it for back taxes. The width doesn't meet the required amount to get it brought up to a real road, which would allow for ditch work and PAVING. BTDT on trying to get some help. The adjoining owners won't donate enough property, so it isn't going to happen that way either. I have considered J_J's idea, but the U-joints won't allow enough deflection to get the trencher turned sideways enough to cut the channel that you envision. Good idea though!! I do have another one of those wheels and thought about using a pillow block bearing and a straight shaft off the pto. Only problem with that is the same with all the others, which is getting it far enough offset to reach outside the tire track. I could use it for other projects if I thought it would work for this one, but building it for this one probably isn't a good idea. Putting the boom mower back on the Ford and havng a go at the brush and small trees is probably the best answer, and then just pulling a middlebuster behind the middle of the tractor. That is just a lot of work, especially when doing it for nothing. David from jax On Edit: I started to buy the roadway property for back taxes, but realized that it was always going to be a roadway, and in reality nothing more than a way to spend money (taxes) because nobody is going to want to buy it, should I decide to sell. I can't close it down and hold the access to their houses ransome, so why should anyone want to buy it? David from jax __________________ A serious accident is one that money won't fix.

10-11-2007, 11:06 PM	#15 (permalink)
toolsorbust Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mocksville NC Posts: 35	Re: Ditch digger The road that I live on I maintain I use my scrape blade. my blade turns on two axisis I turn it to about 22 degrees horizontaly then tilt it verticaly 45 degrees. I dont know if that makes sense the way i described. But basicaly it turnes my scraper into a plow, perfect for cleaning as well as cutting ditches.

10-12-2007, 08:07 AM	#16 (permalink)
sandman2234 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 2,152	Re: Ditch digger No question, a multiangle scrapper blade would be just what I need for this but unlike Toolsorbust, I don't have one. I might could "borrow" one, but taking the chance of tearing up a borrowed implement doing charity work really isn't a good idea. That is a lose-lose situation for me. I will probably just have to bush hog the edge of the road and work around the larger trees. I can take out the larger trees if I take the Ford over there, but I could be opening a can of worms doing that, so I think maybe just a bush hog and then pull a middle buster behind that may work. Can't hurt... David from jax __________________ A serious accident is one that money won't fix.

10-12-2007, 08:17 AM	#17 (permalink)
J_J Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: JACKSONVILLE, FL Posts: 2,030	Re: Ditch digger a multiangle scrapper blade would be just what I need for this but unlike Toolsorbust, I don't have one Hi David I have one. __________________ J.J. When I works, I works hard. When I sits and thinks, I goes to sleep. Lets git er done.

10-12-2007, 03:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
sandman2234 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 2,152	Re: Ditch digger Thanks J_J, I appreciate it if you would loan it to me, provided I don't do the clearing with the bush hog. I am waiting on a return call from the city to make sure I am not going to be getting in hot water by messing with a road that is now their property. Running the boxblade across it or clearing the ditch is one thing, cutting the brush is another. David from jax I looked to see if you had posted anything in the following post, to see if you had an adversion to loaning out implements. Mr.Jimi is on that list, but your not, so hopefully you and I can get together on it. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/o...-neighbor.html __________________ A serious accident is one that money won't fix.

10-12-2007, 06:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
gemini5362 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ozark Mountains in Arkansas Posts: 1,439	Re: Ditch digger We have cities here that has ordinances that say if the grass or brush in your yard gets out of hand either you have to cut it or they will and charge you for it. If a city owns the road and they have such an ordinance I would ask them when they are going to clean up their land

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