Great wire rope trick

[Tom_Veatch]

Originally Posted by EdKing

I don't really have a comment on the splice, but that log splitter looks pretty scary to me. :0

I think I'd rather be the guy carrying the logs than the guy feeding that monster.

[JoeL4330]

Originally Posted by bx24

They loaded up the cable and predictably, it snapped somewhere in the middle and NOT at the eyes.

Yep, in the middle ...as I recall my HS Physics, these are two separate issues, the splice failing (parting) and the line breaking (exceeding its elastic limit) which, as I recall, should be somewhere in the middle.

When strung (pulled) horizontally, it wants to form a catenary ...gravity pulling it down and as you are pulling it horizontally, you are fighting that gravity ...and, the closer it gets to "straight" the loading increases geometrically ...in the middle ...that's my story and I'm stickin' wid it.

[DGS]

Hello
To all the negativity on the topic
FISH OR CUT BAIT
This gentlman posted a very informfitive way to help all of

us to get around problems that we get into from time to time
I am very glad that there are posters like these people thet will help us
Carry on Regards
DGS

[SPYDERLK]

Originally Posted by txslowpoke

On a mechanical splice or hand splice we will pull 2 or 3 strands(6x36 for example) and weave them back in on the bottom side of eye, be it thimble or standard eye application. The number of strands is dictated by the splicer . Both methods have been pull tested to 5 times the breaking strength of cable applied to and are approved industry wide.

Im wondering why you would ever want/need to make a loop that was 5X the strength of the cable.
larry

[Botabill]

First let me say I really appreciate BX24 posting this relatiely quick repair idea. Although I have some idea about physics and friction I'm not any sort of expert. My only real experience in knots and splices took place many years ago while I was an apprentice carpenter. I was required to know knots and various splices and their strengths. Unfortunaltely I forget what that particular slices strength value is. I will however use it with caution. If life or injury become possible I will do the research and not depend on my opinion or how many people yelled the loudlest and longest that they are right. Perhaps the next person who posts here will do that and settle the matter with facts not opinions. I really doubt that BX24 cares which way the facts will fall. He was just generously sharing useful information for us to take or not.

[HarryVanderpool]

Dear fellow bicker'ers,
I have a beekeeper friend that has weaved loops into all of his ropes for over 30 years.
There are no clamps , tape or anything else besides the rope.
The harder you pull, the tighter the weave.
I found this which I believe is similar:

"myboat.com.au" - Australia's most popular boating, fishing and marine websites

There is a pdf you can click on and print.

O.K. lets get back to the nit-picking......

[HarryVanderpool]

OOOOOOOOOOPPPS!!!!
Look to the left and click on the link when you get there.

[exiled]

Originally Posted by txslowpoke

For those under the impression 1 man can splice an eye into 2" wire rope,
you just won the stupid award is all I can say.

Can you please Explain what you mean with this statement? The cable we use to move our barges back and forth is 2". I have made eyes by myself by [splicing] and by [looping and clamping]. No its not easy and not something that I look forward to doing. If I have the man power avaible I'll have someone else do it or at least help me. But that is almost never the situation. In 10 yrs I've only dodged this bullet 3 times out of 12. Out of 9 times replacing an eye on the barge cable I spliced the eyes 3 times cause we did'nt have clamps on hand and the old clamps went into the river "naturally".

I share your and Cityfarma's concern. On my barge ropes and cables that move the barge have the tails wove back into the main line. The thing that I think that is missing here is that the thread is starting from a "in a pinch" format. We use 7 strand 5/8 wirerope to pull buckets toward the leg to unload a barge. If anybody here works with barges you know you cant control when they arrive. Meaning if you buy 7 barges of product from a company there is a real good chance all 7 will get to you at the same time. Barge companies give 5 days to unload then you go on demerg. Thats 5 days from when they get to your "port" or who ever moves barges in your area. This means if it takes a day to unload a barge you've got some serious work to do to not get charged extra. Simple math tells me it'll take 7 days. But it wont. I crank up the pace. One thing that helps out is if you break a cable you can use the method outlined in this thread. It cutts my repair time. It'll take me about 20 minutes to rerun the cable back thru all the pulls which includes alot of climbing and getting back to the bucket. You can add minutes of clamping 2 clamps to this time. Thats if the clamps are on the river with me. If I have to go get them then........ I do just unweave and make my eye and leave the tails loose. Thru grain theres no chance of the tails getting pulled loose. And thatys the only thing thats wrong with the ornigal posters technic. What you dont relize is that his pull is straight forward not backwards so all of the weight is in the middle of the eye on all strands. We all know it will hold. I want to say I dont condone this fix to be permanet. Once your thru you should repair your line. But in a pinch this will work. As far as hurting people I've seen brand new cables snap. You should never be in the path of a "working" cable. I dont care how it is rigged.

[SPYDERLK]

Originally Posted by Botabill

First let me say I really appreciate BX24 posting this relatiely quick repair idea. Although I have some idea about physics and friction I'm not any sort of expert. My only real experience in knots and splices took place many years ago while I was an apprentice carpenter. I was required to know knots and various splices and their strengths. Unfortunaltely I forget what that particular slices strength value is. I will however use it with caution. If life or injury become possible I will do the research and not depend on my opinion or how many people yelled the loudlest and longest that they are right. Perhaps the next person who posts here will do that and settle the matter with facts not opinions. I really doubt that BX24 cares which way the facts will fall. He was just generously sharing useful information for us to take or not.

The facts have been stated. Doubt is optional. I dont know why you expect others to tell you the facts and, as has been done, give pertinent brief explanation, and then be responsible for dispelling doubt of unstated nature. You need to satisfy your doubt by consulting reference materials. Try a key word search in Google.
larry

[HarryVanderpool]

Umm,,,excuse me...

Breaker, Breaker, channel six, Breaker Breaker, Breaker!!

I really need to be working on my bees today but at 1100' we had 1 inch of slushy white global warming on the ground for the 3rd day straight.
After posting earlier today, I printed out the knott info, grabbed all of my ropes and braided KILLER loops on both ends.
No clamps, no tape, just rope.
I called my buddy that has been using this knot for 30 years and he said to trim back the tails to about 1/4" and using a lighter, melt them into balls.
Looks cool too!!

O.K. Let the pokes in the eye with a sharp stick resume....

I'm 10-7, goodnight!