Hey soil screening builders

[Wayne County Hose]

Originally Posted by SkunkWerX

Andy,

For topsoil with no vibrator, make it pretty steep.
Since you are "Mr. Hydraulic" you could hook your 5hp motor to hydraulic vibrator!

I was semi-joking about the "Mr. Hydrualic" remark, but, just had an idea....

Originally Posted by SkunkWerx

What about using the existing motor and pump from a log splitter (everyone has a splitter, right?) diverting the flow from the splitter ram, directing it to a small hydraulic motor with an off-center/eccentric roller to cause the vibration?

I thought about something like that. But, I don't want to make it too large or too heavy. I want to be able to transport it on my 5'x8' trailer, it will hold 1600 lbs. I thought about making the screen on a hydraulic cylinder to have "power tilt." I don't know how well a hydraulic motor will hold up to being a vibrator. If I use an old Briggs and Scrapiron engine, it won't need a vibrator.

[RonMar]

Originally Posted by Wayne County Hose

I thought about something like that. But, I don't want to make it too large or too heavy. I want to be able to transport it on my 5'x8' trailer, it will hold 1600 lbs. I thought about making the screen on a hydraulic cylinder to have "power tilt." I don't know how well a hydraulic motor will hold up to being a vibrator. If I use an old Briggs and Scrapiron engine, it won't need a vibrator.

Yea, if I was going to the trouble of plumbing a hydraulic motor on the screener, I think I would put a connecting rod from the table to an offset crank on the motor and make it an actual shaker table...

[chickenman]

i made a crank by welding a cutoff 3/4" bolt to the end of a 1" coldrolled round bar which gives about 1/2" total travel.

i used pillow block bearings to mount the shaft and a pillow block at both ends of the pitman arm , so far works well.

take a piece of angle and cut a notch in the botton of the angle and clamp the pieces in it, alows you to weld all around the crank and keep it straight

[Arc Angel]

A couple of pics.

[akpilot]

That's cool, Looks like it works real well.

[Wayne County Hose]

Arc Angel,

Neat, I like that. I have metal grates with about 2"x2" openings. I also have some smaller expanded metal grates. I was thinking of building something a lot like yours, but also placing the smaller metal grates below the top one. I would angle it away from the motor in your picture. This would allow the top grate to filter out the big stuff and the smaller grate to filter out smaller stone. Then I would have some stone about the size of #2 stone for other uses.

Now I have to get busy!

[StrangeRanger]

I'm working on this type of project too. But I've got two handicaps, mine will be made out of wood and I've got a mower engine w/ a vertical output shaft instead of horizontal.

I don't have the $$$, time or resources to weld up a nice frame, so wood it will be. I'll just have to brace it up real good.

The mower engine I'm hoping if I run it slow enough w/ a offset weighted pulley on the shaft will shake things up for me.

Who knows, this could be an utter disaster but I've got work w/ what I've got.
j

[akpilot]

Originally Posted by StrangeRanger

I'm working on this type of project too. But I've got two handicaps, mine will be made out of wood and I've got a mower engine w/ a vertical output shaft instead of horizontal.

I don't have the $$$, time or resources to weld up a nice frame, so wood it will be. I'll just have to brace it up real good.

The mower engine I'm hoping if I run it slow enough w/ a offset weighted pulley on the shaft will shake things up for me.

Who knows, this could be an utter disaster but I've got work w/ what I've got.
j

I think it is possible!! I think you will want to run the the pulley in parallel with the direction on slope to reduce side-side motion, which would be hard on your frame. I don't think a vertical shaft is that much of a problem, run a long enough belt to put a 90 degree twist to put the pulley shaft on horizonal plane. Good Luck!!

[Wayne County Hose]

Originally Posted by StrangeRanger

I'm working on this type of project too. But I've got two handicaps, mine will be made out of wood and I've got a mower engine w/ a vertical output shaft instead of horizontal.

j

My engine is a vertical shaft too. I'm going to run a 90 degree twist in the belt to a horizontal shaker. I've seen belts run like this in industrial applications with no longevity issues.

[SkunkWerX]

I agree with what Ronmar and ChickenMan said about making it a shaker.

A connecting rod or i was thinking of an eccentrically drilled final shaker pully/disc that is belt drive, to isolate the motor from a lot of vibration.

Mounted on coil springs seems to be the way the "big boys" do it.

Wayne County, i agree the 90 twist should be no problem.
i also liek the idea of being able to change the angle, that could be very helpful, just keep in mind belt adjustment as the angle is changed.

I built a stand up gravity fed model last wekend, with 1" x 2" fence wire.
Stood up at about a 50 degree angle it works very well.
I thought the 1" x 2" would screen a lot coarser than it really did, the soil is like potting soil consistancy. 3/4" expanded metal seems like it will yield very fine material.
I find for gardening you do want some small "turds" in the mix, if it's all sifted to talcum powder consistancy it will pack real tight, causing other problems.
Another thought is while sifting, throw in some additives, peat moss, humus, compost, etc. to give the final product some loft.

The idea of a screen under a screen is also thinking ahead, good idea!
Filter off the real big stuff , then end up with mediums and fines.

I'm on the drawing board right now, luckily have a 5HP Honda Horizontal shaft sitting in the shop, it ran when it was removed from service, so, keeping fingers crossed it's still viable.