and another trailer build

[tatra805]

Do you also have this dip-period during projects where no progress is made because of no reason.You stand looking at your "thing" you made and you just cant like it but dont know why?

Well, i figured i was not happy with the load volume and the optics after putting the wheels on and narrowing the axle.

So, today i jumped on it again and decided that if i was building this trailer, which i suppose is a 1 time thing, i could as well take some risks if the outcome would satisfy me more.

Here the results:

Not the perfect way but i cut out 45 degrees triangles from the original side and folded the whole assembly. Well it worked out.

In the back i added a support which will make a nice light frame also.

The top part of the sides can be flipped in any position holing it with a chain for eg free hay loading, and in the complete down position allows for easier hand loading from the side.

Now still a door frame for the back and the metal plate sides and it starts to look as a mature trailer.

Load volume increased to 2.25m3. big enough for about too much of everything!

 

[Bedlam]

Looks nice...Great job so far I like the idea..

 

[DMF]

Keep up the good work! I am in need of a "tipping trailer" as well so your progress is very interesting to me!

 

[tatra805]

thanks for the comments!

I might need some advise on the hydraulics so keep tuned.

Once the construction is done i want to measure a bit how much cylinder i will need to put.

I am playing around with the idea of putting 2 "outboard" cylinders instead of 1 central one. Any opinions on this type of set up?


Another thing is the doorframe. I first wanted to make a self opening vertical up-swing door. (mechanical link system that opens the door when tipping) But will abandon that idea as it might not be that practical for "general purpose".

I am now thinking about a 2 wing horizontal swingdoor setup.(classic doors) That would require to open it manually before tipping but has the benefit that the doors can be left open when transporting larger objects.

OR I make a vertical swing frame which holds 2 wing classic doors and i have both in 1.....

 

[tatra805]

So yesterday i made the doorframe and the doors for the trailer. Just a couple of pics.

The frame is bolted onto the back of the trailer so i can remove it but also in such a way that i can swing it down. With the whole construction being made sturdy enough it must be possible to use the doorframe as a loading ramp for small wheeled things. (wheelbarrows etc)

As closing mechanism i want to use the same principle as found on truck trailer doors. This also reinforces the driving ramp idea.

Going shopping for some hinges and the locking bits for the sides and then still the metal siding.
Hope to be ready with it by the weekend.




edit: I just realized that it is 1 month today since my first post / start of the build. Done a couple of other things also and it was mainly work in the dark hours but starts to be time to have this trailer finished.

 

[tatra805]

Snowstorm yesterday evening while temps were rising. Today, perfect weather and all looks 'spring'

Time for an outside photoshoot:

more ...

 

[tatra805]

hope you like it

 

[tatra805]

Hydraulics are coming near.

When going for 2 outboard cylinders i would use:

2.5/1.5 400-800 tilt cylinders from the FEL ( and upgrade the FEL cylinders to get more tilt force)

this would give me at 2000psi and an angle of:

20 2x 2015lbs = 4030 lbs push
30 2x 4909lbs = 9818 lbs push
45 2x 6942lbs = 13884 lbs push

going from a 2 ton load and taking in consideration the pivot point of the loadbed i would need 2200lbs to dump.
So i guess i have to find and angle between 20 and 30 (i also presume that the tractor is not giving 2000psi, but have no idea how far off)

Mounting the cylinders is a bit of a mystery to me, Attached 2 pictures showing where and how i want to mount them.

Ideas, remarks?

 

[czechsonofagun]

Do you also have this dip-period during projects where no progress is made because of no reason.You stand looking at your "thing" you made and you just cant like it but dont know why?

Yes, I call it brewing of the project. Sometimes I just know I will have to do it more complicated because it just plain makes sense, but it takes time to admit it to myself.

But the trailer is really good looking. Truly versatile, I will copy it one day when there is a need.

 

[MJPetersen]

Sometimes I just know I will have to do it more complicated because it just plain makes sense, but it takes time to admit it to myself.

Isn't that the truth. For a week now I have been "thinking about" the dump for my rear scoop (since I put the quick hitch on it is hard to reach the trip handle), but I have procrastinated, because i did not want to do it the way I thought that it should--I tried different combinations, but finally yesterday I admitted to my self that I just needed to "do it." I was spending more time dinking with it than it would take to just do it right. Hopefully I will finish it today and will post a picture of what I have done on the thread for the quick hitch. So yes, indecision is a BIG time waster! (But so is going off in the wrong direction).


Mike