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You and I are in the same boat. Mine is slow but powerful and cost a few $100 about 30 years ago. Mine has a 1955 Wisconsin 7 hp engine
Home made wood splitter
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You and I are in the same boat. Mine is slow but powerful and cost a few $100 about 30 years ago. Mine has a 1955 Wisconsin 7 hp engine
skidsteer.ca
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I'd love to know more about this project too. I have a 200 Serco knuckboom loader, mounted on a old Mack, 3208 cat power with 4 vane pump sections, apox 140 gpm total.
It has a tow behind 60" circular saw slasher with 3 section electric over hydralic valve to run the bunt board, saw arm and length slide. (unfortunately that does not go down to 24") that we cut 8' and load trucks. I'd like to build something I can heel tree length to and block and split it, so we can make use of it in the summer season.
Need ideas for a infeed and out feed conveyor and a splitter arrangement.
Sorry for the hi jack.
Ken
bassgrinder
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Can you post some pics of the tow behind slasher? Off the top of my head I think you have a good portion of what you will need already in place. You might have to elevate the slashing portion to leave enough room to drop the block to the splitter and then drop finished product from there to a conveyor hopper, etc. I would say the beam the wedge is on would need to be a min of 16" from the ground. Of course 3 feet would be much better, mine was about 3 ft and I could only run about 20 minutes without a conveyor before I could no longer see the wedge and would have to move forward. I built a hopper from 2” X 2” x ¼” sq tube and 1/4” plate and placed it at the bottom of an old hay elevator. I got a double chain square type elevator that was originally 30’ but was rusting out, I managed to save 4 the best 4’ sections for 16’ it worked perfect for me and let me load directly into my tandem dumps. The electric valves are great for automating with a nice little control system the splitting ram and at least the return of the arm saw would work great in auto and you could have the cut stroke of the saw also be an auto cycle but with a manual start. The operator could position log against the bunt, push cycle start, position log against the bunt, push cycle start, and keep repeating until log is gone, grab new log, rinse and repeat. Note the ability to select quickly from 2,4,6,8 way splitting will be IMO crucial, having to sort pieces still too big from the product and process further would be a enormous PIA, particularly when everything else is done smoothly and efficiently
Wayne
Can you post some pics of the tow behind slasher? Off the top of my head I think you have a good portion of what you will need already in place. You might have to elevate the slashing portion to leave enough room to drop the block to the splitter and then drop finished product from there to a conveyor hopper, etc. I would say the beam the wedge is on would need to be a min of 16" from the ground. Of course 3 feet would be much better, mine was about 3 ft and I could only run about 20 minutes without a conveyor before I could no longer see the wedge and would have to move forward. I built a hopper from 2” X 2” x ¼” sq tube and 1/4” plate and placed it at the bottom of an old hay elevator. I got a double chain square type elevator that was originally 30’ but was rusting out, I managed to save 4 the best 4’ sections for 16’ it worked perfect for me and let me load directly into my tandem dumps. The electric valves are great for automating with a nice little control system the splitting ram and at least the return of the arm saw would work great in auto and you could have the cut stroke of the saw also be an auto cycle but with a manual start. The operator could position log against the bunt, push cycle start, position log against the bunt, push cycle start, and keep repeating until log is gone, grab new log, rinse and repeat. Note the ability to select quickly from 2,4,6,8 way splitting will be IMO crucial, having to sort pieces still too big from the product and process further would be a enormous PIA, particularly when everything else is done smoothly and efficiently
Wayne
skidsteer.ca
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I could watch that saw slicing off a 1/2 cord of wood all day long.
Don't give me any **** about being slow, that was the first couple clam fulls and she was warming up
Made this one about 18 years ago.
The oil tank was the biggest challenge, 10" pipe I think. I also made allowances for shorter length wood by using bolts to be placed behind the ram in the platform so to stop the ram from having to go all the way back in order to detent. The first test drive out the axle bent from bouncing hence the 5 1/2" channel.
The oil tank was the biggest challenge, 10" pipe I think. I also made allowances for shorter length wood by using bolts to be placed behind the ram in the platform so to stop the ram from having to go all the way back in order to detent. The first test drive out the axle bent from bouncing hence the 5 1/2" channel.
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bassgrinder
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Does the length between the bunt board and the saw change under hydraulic power? I think you could build a rack that would set in your current cradle and lock to it. I also believe you could attach everything need to further process blocks into fire wood on this frame. That way you could lift the whole works in and out with the grapple some locking pins and quick connect hydraulic lines and you can change back and forth rather easy. There are many possibilities not sure how it might work with the pulp grapple clam but with a narrower Rotobec grapple clam you might even just add a clamp or bolt on spacer to bunt against and have what you are holding in the grapple be the firewood length blocks after slashing and then have separate splitter trailer behind or beside the slasher with a hopper for the blocks and a carry away conveyor, just drop the grapple full of blocks in the hopper after slashing. The main thing is that you have penty of hydraulic power to tap into, the slasher that will most likely cut your blocks faster and easier than anything else, and the grapple to handle the logs.
Wayne
Does the length between the bunt board and the saw change under hydraulic power? I think you could build a rack that would set in your current cradle and lock to it. I also believe you could attach everything need to further process blocks into fire wood on this frame. That way you could lift the whole works in and out with the grapple some locking pins and quick connect hydraulic lines and you can change back and forth rather easy. There are many possibilities not sure how it might work with the pulp grapple clam but with a narrower Rotobec grapple clam you might even just add a clamp or bolt on spacer to bunt against and have what you are holding in the grapple be the firewood length blocks after slashing and then have separate splitter trailer behind or beside the slasher with a hopper for the blocks and a carry away conveyor, just drop the grapple full of blocks in the hopper after slashing. The main thing is that you have penty of hydraulic power to tap into, the slasher that will most likely cut your blocks faster and easier than anything else, and the grapple to handle the logs.
Wayne
skidsteer.ca
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What I had been thinking so far was to have another hitch on the passengers side rear outrigger to offset the slasher to the side allowing a outfeed conveyor to come up over the bunt board along side the loader and carry the split wood out, without interfering with the loaders swing.
Have a couple drop legs to get the slashers tires up 24" so the rounds would drop from the saw into the splitter basket, which would ram them forward and onto the outfeed conveyor.
The tree could be loaded and advanced with the loader but I would like to have a live roller feed to bring the tree forward, so the loader could be getting another stem. The live feed could come later though.
The 50 gpm that runs the saw goes into a flow devider that splits 12 gpm off for the slasher cylinders. (to the 3 section electric hyd valve, So I really have 5 total pump circuits.) This flow could be robbed to advance the infeed.
Hopefully the saw motor oil could be robbed momentarily to run the splitter.
It would also be good to have a way to process multiple stems, though I have no idea how the splitter would be arranged
I have looked at the Multi Tech (love that feed grapple) and Cord Kings and like you said most of it is there.
Ken
toxicjeeper
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Hey Gizmo..Your splitter looks exactly like what i want to make..lots of room to work withour getting into the tire..What are your pump spec and eng HP..also what size is that beam..looks like what i need to run a 15 HP 16 gpm pump with a 3.5 inch 24 inch long cylinder..hopeing for a high 6 low 7 sec cycle time..
Wow, sold the splitter about 10 years ago and don't recall some of the requested information. What I do know is the beam, I think was 10", 5-HP motor, 2-speed pump. Besides the axle needing to be braced I also needed to add bracing to the beam under the wedge as the unit was twisting the top of the beam. I will add, if I may, your 15-HP engine and 16-gpm pump requirements seem to be a lot. Others on here will correct me if I am wrong.
toxicjeeper
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Thanks Gizno..Sorry i didnt realize the thread was that old till now..I am in the process of looking for a beam now..Have a line on a 6 x6 x 8 but that just seem too small..my only reason for wanting to build over buy is cause the stuff on the market seem cheaply made and slow as snot for the 2ooo+ price tag..The pump i plan on using with the 15 hp is 16gpm on the low pressure side and 4 gpm on the high pressure side..I could get away with a smaller motor but the 15 hp is pretty cheap knock-off motor and has an electric start :thumbsup: