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   / there Mom I fixed it #11  
Good to see coming together for you and the Mrs. Steve :)
One can never have enough tools at any age. ;)
 
   / there Mom I fixed it #12  
Nice recovery Steve, you should be proud of the whole set-up. Lota work for sure but you did a nice job of it!! Mom will be happy!!!!! Hey,..now that you served your apprentiship,..you can go into the "siding" business. Looks good from here!

CHEERS!
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   / there Mom I fixed it #13  
Nice job Steve.. I always look at these like accidents on the road. They scare the h*** out me knowing that it could be me next. It looks wonderful but it sound's like the insurance company took advantage of you. Sorry to hear that, especially since it was truly an accident. Now you just have to fill it back up and then some so you can build a bigger barn. :D
Good luck.

Wedge
 
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Nice job Steve.. I always look at these like accidents on the road. They scare the h*** out me knowing that it could be me next. It looks wonderful but it sound's like the insurance company took advantage of you. Sorry to hear that, especially since it was truly an accident. Now you just have to fill it back up and then some so you can build a bigger barn. :D
Good luck.

Wedge

Thanks guys for all the encouragement. I can't blame the insurance company I think they treated me pretty good all things considered. Although they could only give me $1000 for my boat because I didn't have a seperate policy on it, and the replacement cost is around $17,000 I take the blame for not knowing more about my policy. Since my house was/is a wreck, I bought it as a fixer upper, it had no heating system, plumbing system, electrical system or insulation in most of it. When I bought it, house, outbuildings and six acres were purchased for $65k. The man I bought it from told me if was to keep it he would bulldoze it and start over, it wasn't worth fixing. My insurance guy looked at it and said the house would be worth around 100k once it was fixed, and since that is what I intended to do that sounded like a reasonable amount.

Because I didn't have riders on any of the "appertanent structures" they are only insured for 19% of that. Well my red barn was almost new it was 34 x 56 with a cement floor, fully insulated with fiberglass and had almost 14 foot clear center height due to being built with scissors trusses and totally lined with OSB. My old silver barn is 60 x 60 with a cement floor. The appertanent structure definition is pplied to everything that isn't a house, therefore all the outbuildings and even the board fence were only insured for around 19K. I did have replacement cost insurance on my house contents. Because I was doing a total renovation of the house, removing all interior surfaces of outside walls to add insulation, drywall and wiring. Everything that would normally be in a house (biggest item other than the boat was all my Kitchen cabinets and their contents along with new plumbing fixtures, kitchen sink and stormdoors and some interior doors and trim that I had pre-purchased for the house was being stored in my barn, we are living in my travel trailer while we are doing the work. They treated us pretty good on these items, the only thing they realy hosed me on was my 40 year accumulation of tools.

I had everything you could imagine, including a brand new wire welder still in the box and a great ingersol rand 220 volt air compressor. They allowed me 10 to 20% of the replacement value on most of my tools.:mad:

They will reimberse me the difference if I actually go out and replace them, but at almost 60 years old it seems unlikely that I will ever use most of them again anyway and I haven't had the time to go and buy them, I have been to busy rebuilding stuff.:D

Oh well...live and learn..

It is fair to say with a 3600 square foot old barn and a 1900 square foot interior finished new pole barn, the chicken coop, and the board fence I was probably underinsured with 19K coverage on them.

pictures show some minor structural modifications, I jacked up the roof around 6 inches in the center and installed additional support members along with replacing all the cieling joists in the kitchen area, all new drywall and plumbing, new walk in ceramic tile shower in bathroom along with jacuzi tub. I have also installed 16 new windows. I have been real busy cause I am old and move slow and have done all this work myself. I have also moved some walls, doors and support columns around.
 

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   / there Mom I fixed it #15  
You talk about insurance for your barn and property.

It was a real nightmare when we got our property.

Because it had a house on it (with a garage and barn) but the house was literally falling down, we never lived in it. took us about 8 months to put the paperwork through to have the local FD train on it and burn it down.

We set a single wide trailer on the property to live in while we build a new (real) house.

Because of that insurance on a mobile home is diffrent than "home owners" insurance. And because we own property (aprox 5 acers) then most "moblie home insurance" doesn't cover "ground" because they assume your in a trailer park. on top of that we had a quazi "abandon structure" on the property and EVERY one runs screaming from you when you try to tell them our situation. (factor in we had the trailer set by the trailer peeps but i pulled power, and hooked up water and septic, and put skirting on all of which took me about 3 months to do durring which time we wanted it insured, but no one will touch a structure you "cant live in")

So we FINNALLY got a guy to look at it and work the insurance. But mobile home is covered like a car, (it is a car, complete with a title) so they wont cover "replacement value" only what you paid for it. Then the standard policy is for contents equal to value of the house. AHhhhhh i have WAY more than $16K in personal property inside my $16K house. So we have to add an addtional personal property rider to cover the added amount. And we have to add the barn and contents rider also because the standard policy doesnt cover "out buildings"

I was told it would have been a LOT easyer if i had qualified as a farm because then you can get "farm" insurance. Basicly they ask you how many barns and what size, how much value in equipment, how much in contents, and how much liablity and your done. They actually understand you can have a structure worth $50,000 and NOT live in it.
 
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You talk about insurance for your barn and property.

It was a real nightmare when we got our property.

Because it had a house on it (with a garage and barn) but the house was literally falling down, we never lived in it. took us about 8 months to put the paperwork through to have the local FD train on it and burn it down.

We set a single wide trailer on the property to live in while we build a new (real) house.

Because of that insurance on a mobile home is diffrent than "home owners" insurance. And because we own property (aprox 5 acers) then most "moblie home insurance" doesn't cover "ground" because they assume your in a trailer park. on top of that we had a quazi "abandon structure" on the property and EVERY one runs screaming from you when you try to tell them our situation. (factor in we had the trailer set by the trailer peeps but i pulled power, and hooked up water and septic, and put skirting on all of which took me about 3 months to do durring which time we wanted it insured, but no one will touch a structure you "cant live in")

So we FINNALLY got a guy to look at it and work the insurance. But mobile home is covered like a car, (it is a car, complete with a title) so they wont cover "replacement value" only what you paid for it. Then the standard policy is for contents equal to value of the house. AHhhhhh i have WAY more than $16K in personal property inside my $16K house. So we have to add an addtional personal property rider to cover the added amount. And we have to add the barn and contents rider also because the standard policy doesnt cover "out buildings"

I was told it would have been a LOT easyer if i had qualified as a farm because then you can get "farm" insurance. Basicly they ask you how many barns and what size, how much value in equipment, how much in contents, and how much liablity and your done. They actually understand you can have a structure worth $50,000 and NOT live in it.

You did it the right way, you had a good understanding about your coverage. I just assumed that my insurance guy would make sure that my out buildings were covered, and for what I was paying I thought they were:confused:

My old house was a nice newer 2800 sq. ft. cape cod with a walk out basement, on 5 acres of land with an old 30 x 60 barn that also had a walk out basement. The barn was over 100 years old so they wouldn't cover it for damages, but the entire property was insured as a "country estate" for 240K plus replacement costs on contents. My premiums on that policy were less than the ones for my 65k fixer upper. duhh...live and learn....:eek:

Thanks for sharing your experience. I hope our stories inspire others to take a good look at the policies they hold. I have been buying house insurance for around 40 years. This is the first year I have ever had a claim. I will be very happy to pay for another 40 years and not have another one.;)

I am still walking and breathing so life is good:D:D:D:D

my new barn looks great, but it is empty......now I have a goal....
 

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