NEW ROLLER & SHEEPS FOOT - ON THE WAY

[crash325]

New Roller build is getting started. Rusty end of tank cut off and some sand shoveled in. Tank that is left, is pretty solid and a full 1/8 inch thick. That is all the sand it going to get. Sand is mostly to scour out the rust and keep the inside clean. When full of water and no air it should not rust any more. Its 36 inches in diameter and will be 4.5 feet long. Have not done the math on gallons of water or weight. Tank by its self over 250 pounds. Yes the Zinc will be ground off where it gets welded.

Old roller will be turned into a Sheep Foot. It痴 a full 3/16 inch thick. It has a thin end that will be cut off, then a new yoke built.

 

[crash325]

My math is rotten.
But here is what I figured out on the weight. 3'x4.5' is 78+ cubic feet, that works out to about 650 pounds of water. Tank is about 250 pounds, tongue & yoke will be another 100 pounds or so, not sure about the sand maybe 200 pounds. Total 1,150 pounds give or take a little.
One of you folks that is good at math please let me know if I am close.

 

[Toddao]

I get 229 gallons at 1912 lbs??

 

[crash325]

I get 229 gallons at 1912 lbs??

:thumbsup:

Thank you. Bet your math is a lot better than mine. :laughing::thumbsup:

 

[crash325]

Made a little progress on the roller tank today. Got the rusted out waste cut off, wire brushed the lip that sort of fits into the tank end. Hammered & chipped out the crud. Crud was real nasty stuff, sort of a sulfur smell. Sure glad I didn't have to drink the water out of this tank. Not just rust, the crud was sort of growing into lumps and eating the tank big time.

Plan to weld a plate in the bad end as its rusted real bad and may not stand up, when roller is being pulled.

Were this tank not coated in zinc, think it would have wound up as a pit bar-B-Q.

 

[crash325]

Been giving this tank a lot of though as to using it as roller. Even with a foot cut off there is still a lot of rust & thin areas. What I call the weak end in the drawing, is rusted through in several places & very thin in others.

Steel plate, strips or re-bar can be welded inside to make it stronger. But with a roller that could weight almost 3,000 pounds, I'm thinking even the good end may not be strong enough. Sure like to hear what some of you folks think

It's larger than I want for an in ground Bar-B-Q pit but that may be it's best use. ??

 

[mrcaptainbob]

Pi (3.12) x radius squared (1.5 x 1.5) times the length (4.5). If the diameter is 3 and the length is 4.5 that = 31.59 cubic feet. With water at 8.35 pounds per gallon that comes to a bit under 264 pounds. Your estimates of tank, sand and metal parts is 550 pounds. Total is well under eight hundred pounds and should be easy for your tractor to pull.

 

[52wej]

Toddao is correct. The weight of water is almost 2000 pounds. 1 cubic foot of water contains roughly 7.5 gallons which at a weight of 8.32 lbs per gallon gives a weight per cubic foot of 62.4 pounds. That will be a heavy roller. willie jones

 

[High Compression]

:thumbsup:

Thank you. Bet your math is a lot better than mine. :laughing::thumbsup:

I get about the same. 1978.95 lbs. @ 237 gal, 31.79 cu ft. 3.14 x radius squared x length.:thumbsup:

 

[Baby Grand]

1984# for just the water, if full.
Time to start the R1 or R4 bickering.

 

[kebo]

Personally, I think I would look for another candidate to use for the roller. By the time you reinforce this tank, it will be like a new tank so might as well get one to start with!

 

[Matt_Jr]

1984# for just the water, if full.
Time to start the R1 or R4 bickering.

Turf of course

 

[AlanB]

What will the Sheeps foot be made of? as in the foot itself?

 

[crash325]

What will the Sheeps foot be made of? as in the foot itself?

Hi Alan,
The "feet" will be made out of cut off R/R spikes & R/R Lag bolts. I have a few hundred of them. Should I run out I have some 1" re-bar. The old boiler has quite a few knobs on it already.

"(Kebo
Personally, I think I would look for another candidate to use for the roller. By the time you reinforce this tank, it will be like a new tank so might as well get one to start with!)"

I do have a water (pressure) tank that is in good shape. 1 or 2 bullet holes in it. It's just a little smaller than I want. But would make a nice roller.

Think I'm going to set the rusty tank aside and do a little scrounging around. Would like to find an old propane tank around 80 to 100 gallon. Or a really big hot water tank, in fairly good shape.

Better sit down and have a cool 1 or 3, while I ponder the build. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[mrcaptainbob]

Gallons...cubic feet... there's a difference??? (How embarrassing!) I sit corrected....

 

[High Compression]

Turf of course

Agreed:thumbsup:

 

[High Compression]

Gallons...cubic feet... there's a difference??? (How embarrassing!) I sit corrected....

1 cubic foot = 7.480 519 480 5 gallon [US, liquid]

 

[crash325]

Moving right along almost at the speed of a snail. Got the roller tank out of the way. May get some 3/16" or 1/4" sheet to make a good end. But would like to find another tank.

Got the old roller moved around to work on. Pulled the drain & fill plate off and drained out the water. Now to weld a whole bunch of Feet onto the tank.

Sorted out 50 to 70 R/R spikes & lag bolts to cut off for the feet. Have a lot more if needed.

Round head UP or Down?? Not sure yet, What do you think?? How does 1" long sound to you???

Also
See the thread on "What strange things have you moved with your FEL".

 

[crash325]

Too much thinking & too little working.

Not real happy with RR spikes for the feet. Contact area, 1/2" square too small, afraid that they will rip off when turning or worse yet rip the tank.

Have any of you ever made a a Pillow Block Bearing?? The ones big enough for this guy are about $150. each. Here is my plan, 3/16"x2" Steel strap, bent into a "U" shape with ears that fits around 2" water pipe. Sleeve it down with PVC pipe to fit the axles, drill a bunch of holes in the PVC to hold grease. Cut off coupling's to lock it in place. Chances are that every now and then the PVC will have to be replaced, but not a big deal.

Next, have a small tank 12" x 60", it will be mounted slightly above and forward of the big tank. 2 Reasons, a little more tongue weight. Next a spray bar will be added in front of the sheep's foot and 1 behind it. A little water may help on some jobs.

My pea brain is getting tired of all this thinking. :laughing:

Sure like to hear what some of you think. :confused3::anyone::mur:

 

[hddnis]

Nylon can be used for a bearing. Maybe try the plastic cutting boards you buy at Wal-Mart. Use two hole saws to make rings and then stack a few rings up for a longer bearing surface. Bearing grade plastics are available online and from bearing supply stores if you want to buy something ready made.



Mr. HE