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    Super Star Member LD1's Avatar
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    Default Re: Build-It-Yourself Attachments KITS??? interested?

    I think it is a very interesting concept, BUT, IMO, it would have to be AT LEAST 50% off, and posibally more to entice me.

    Lets look at your new scrape blade for starters. At a price of ~$1200 finished, if you offered it as a build-it-yourself, the average person would have a good day in fitment and welding. Another day in preping and painting. And then another day in final assembly.

    And then theres the issue of warranty. I didnt see any kind of warranty listed for your rear blade and dont know if you offer one, but I suspect that you'd stand behind your product as well as any if a weld broke or something bent as long as it wasnt pulled behind a 200hp 4x4 tractor. You certainly arent going to do this with a customer assembled blade.

    So all of that in consideration, a 25% discount.........only saving $300, no thanks. Go ahead and do the welding and painting. I'd have to be at the $500-$600 range or less to even consider such a proposition.

    But thats just me. Others may be different.
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    My implement budget is tight, so I tend to look for used equipment in decent shape.

    I'm retired, so saving money on DIY is sort of like a part time job. So I would consider assembly.

    About the warranty, my expectation would be that the design and parts are up to the job and fit without using presses etc to overcome a bad fit. However, I would not expect someone to warranty my assembly or welding.

    I think it would be important to your business model and to the customer to figure that out and manage the finger pointing.

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    Default Re: Build-It-Yourself Attachments KITS??? interested?

    I like the idea. If everything can be worked out and the price is reasonable it should go over well.

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    Default Re: Build-It-Yourself Attachments KITS??? interested?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGRIMAN View Post
    Well, it would be a good deal for me as I have the welding equip and a Powder Coating shop, but as others have said, it depends on the price.

    Gary, Not to hijack the thread, but I'm wondering what coating materials you are talking about?
    Dupont used to make a coating called 25P that was a one coat system epoxy that could be applied without blasting or degreasing. I think they still make a comparable product to it. I used it on a powerhouse in Buffalo NY many years ago just for the fact that it didnt need a substrate (blasted surface) to hold it on the metal. A demo by the supplier asked me to get him some grease which I got off one of our cranes. He smeared it on a piece of pipe, wiped off the excess with a rag and brush painted it on. The next day we used a welders chipping hammer and couldnt knock it off other than small chips. It dries to a shiny coat also like powder coating. It was expensive back in 1988 at $100 per gallon but for quality of paint, durability, ease of application (brushed, rolled or sprayed) and no sand blasting required, it was worth the extra dollars. It aslo came in multitude of colors which is what we had to do with the piping there to color code it per product.
    I just googled it and found this. Lots of sites on Dupont 25P. I was reminded that it will chalk in sunlight after a few years, which doesnt hurt the protection, just fades the color a bit. Topcoat with UV resistant paint and you're good to go.
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    I think it is a great idea. I would love kits for repair work. Customers pay a lot when a section has to be cut out and replaced. If for example a grader blade's scope and plates are bent or just cracked, it is an alternative to heating and beating half a day to get get it pretty close, or I could have new parts that fit, just plug and play- cheaper on customers. Dealerships could keep the knockdown kits stocked easier and assemble what the customer wants. it would allow customized equipment with lower input cost and happier users. I prefer using equipment I built but time & reasonable parts to do it limit my options.

    It would open up a whole new market. For all who don't have a welder or don't know how to weld, I know your uncle or brother-in-law does. HaHaHa I hear that ever time I get called to "tack" something back together, he's busy so can you just....

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    Default Re: Build-It-Yourself Attachments KITS??? interested?

    Sounds a really good idea!

    You could do a trial run with a selection of implements to select TBN members who have a proven history of making stuff. They could trial the process to see if it is workable just from the parts and instruction booklet and give feedback.
    (I know a chap who does likewise with 4x4 kit on a UK forum. Select members get to trial and feed back on the design development, and also to do assembly photos in different vehicles. Small products are given away for the trial, larger ones are heavily discounted.)

    If the welding quality is a legal/safety bind then perhaps working towards a redesign of some simpler implements to flanged bolt together seams might be worth a trial run. That would allow for fully painted parts and a box of bolts in the delivery.

    You'd have to include a Z shaped wrench for assembly though!

    Good luck with the idea, I think if all the legal/safety aspect are covered then you're onto a winner.

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    Hi Ted,

    I would say go for it.

    I would start out with something most people might want, like a tree scoop, land plane, middle buster, pipe/cable layer, etc.

    Bolt together stuff would work for those that don't have a welder.

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    For us in Alaska we pay for the freight for all of you that live in the Contiguous USA whenever its advertised as free shipping. I think that it would be a great idea. UPS, FEDEX they charge us an arm and a leg for freight. But everbody else gets it for free. Anything that would cut the cost of merchandise and give me a good project to work on at -40 degrees is alright by me.

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    I'd be interested, but like others have said, a cost reduction of at least 50% would have to be available to make it feasible. I'd like something like a sleeve hitch brinly box blade for my Garden tractors - pull snow away from the lawn / buildings in the winter, and straighten up my gravel driveway in the summer. Yeah, i could just buy one, but I've been tempting the idea of building one. My problem lies with only being able to cut with an angle grinder - I don't have a torch and frankly not really interested in one, nor can I afford a plasma if I were to cut a bunch of pieces out of 1/8 or 3/16 sheet, it'd look like the dirt it's meant to move.

    I say 50%, because you aren't paying a welder to assemble it, and you don't have to powdercoat it.

    I don't need powdercoat, i can just paint and touch up every fall - like what I do now.

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    I replayed in the other thread. But I do think this will bring on more people to buy with a limited attachment budget. But I would say start off with the simple stuff (non pto equipment).
    send some units out there,
    note of how long it would take them to put together,
    Let them try it out, most stuff will break the first day!,
    If it holds together well and they like the attachment, let them have the option to buy it (if it don't break) and what would be a good price they would feel comfortable to pay.

    For warranty i would say, it's a kit, your doing the work of putting it together, if you want a warranty buy an assembled unit!

    PS Ted I will be looking for a rear scrape blade soon. I love your design and if you get a kit for it I would be gladly to purchase and test one for you!
    Bobcat CT235 with Deere Imatch, And a very bad addiction of attachments

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