MikePA said:I guess the 8N was so successful by using smoke and mirrors. Look, no frame AND a loader.
and a 9N. No frame!
How did we ever survive?
Those Ford engineers. What idiots.
Yeah, my 1963 ford 4140 HD industrial has a full factory frame. When I restored it there was evidence of 4 separate sequential prior frame repairs on the "good" side and 3x that much on the "bad" side. I added about 15 pounds of plate and over 20 POUNDS of weld wire filling cracks.
I also called the ford engineers idiots - but I wasn't saying it in a nice way! The frame is only 1/4" C channel. Full boxed and thicker with cross bracing is needed with a hoe. Oh, both the transmission casing and the differential casing were cracked in so many numerous locations that they were both replaced.
Did I mention that I also added a few expletives deleted prior to the "idiots"?
jb