Good point wayne, when my Kubota has it's 60th birthday I will let you know! I say if you have a JD dealer telling you he will match or beat Kubota price, give him the Kubota price and let him put his money where his mouth is and then you will have the best deal if he's a good service guy. Around here JD sells very well, I went to a JD dealer a few years ago and asked if they had a usd 2210 for sale. She laughed and said I wish I had a half dozen, I'd have them sold in no time. JD sells in Wisconsin, I don't know about everywhere though. Later, ihookem.