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Subvet: Your post describing the amount of ground and what you are doing, etc triggers me to make an alternative suggestion. You did not say if you do any gardening (in addition to taking care of the ground), but, if I were in your position and knew that is the amount I had to take care of, I would buy a new BSC two wheel tractor to replace my old gravelies. I know a 4 wheel tractor is "neater", but functionally, a well made two wheel tractor will do the job for you. A complete outfit included dozer blade, tiller that will dig 6" or more, a rotary plow that will make a nifty planting area (for grass or garden) 10"-12" deep, snow blower, finish mower, bush hog mower deck, chipper shredder, sickle bar (that can cut 1"-2" saplings, along with a rider for when you don't want to walk behind, will set you back around 10k and do everything you want. There are even reversible tedders, hay and sileage bailers, tilting carts, etc available. These machines are used in Europe to run small farms, especially on sloping grounds. I have a 6.6 hp gravely with dual wheels that mows (pulling me behind) up hills, pushes 6" and more snow (easy), tills my garden etc. I am attaching a link to a dealer. Check it out.
Also . . . re: hydro vs geared, mossroad's (David's) nifty little story about moving a dirt pile is right on the money. IF, I said IF, that's all you are going to do he is absolutely correct. For going back and forth at lower speeds, again IF that's all you are going to do, a hydro is a good choice. But . . . I respectfully suggest that for any given engine HP, the laws of physics show that you will get less hp out the back if a higher % of that hp is driving a transmission hydraulic pump. Further, the frictional loss in a "fluid" is far greater than with a mechanical gear. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand simple physical laws. Also, there is a safety issue. Imagine you are going from one place to another at 10-12 mph (assuming you can get the hydro to that speed) and an emergeny comes up. Your natural reaction is to lift your foot from the accelerator and jam on the brakes. Try that on a hydro (don't try it-just imagine it-you seem like a nice guy-I wouldn't want to see you go over the hood!). Regarding shuttle shifting with a geared tractor, mossroad is correct-you do (usually-some tractors have hydraulic activated shifting with the shuttle) have to press the clutch, however, you do not have to let go of the wheel. Thumb hooked over steering wheel, fingers do the shift from F to R or back. Another issue is one of control. You have more complete control over the tractor with a clutch and gears. Period. Also, try using your hydro to park on a hill that's a bit steep just for the brakes (and, don't try that except as an experiment). Read a thread in the Kubota Use area you'll see what I mean-his hydro tractor got stuck on a hill and the brakes wouldn't hold it. I'm not "against" hydros, for some uses they are much more convenient than geared tractors-I have operated and rented different equipment with hydros. But, overall, for most uses, the hydro is less safe, chews up HP, costs more, costs more to fix and is really unneccessary.
Anyway, take care. Hope I havn't pissed you hydro folks off too much. JEH
www.bcssmallfarmequip.com
Also . . . re: hydro vs geared, mossroad's (David's) nifty little story about moving a dirt pile is right on the money. IF, I said IF, that's all you are going to do he is absolutely correct. For going back and forth at lower speeds, again IF that's all you are going to do, a hydro is a good choice. But . . . I respectfully suggest that for any given engine HP, the laws of physics show that you will get less hp out the back if a higher % of that hp is driving a transmission hydraulic pump. Further, the frictional loss in a "fluid" is far greater than with a mechanical gear. Anyone who says otherwise doesn't understand simple physical laws. Also, there is a safety issue. Imagine you are going from one place to another at 10-12 mph (assuming you can get the hydro to that speed) and an emergeny comes up. Your natural reaction is to lift your foot from the accelerator and jam on the brakes. Try that on a hydro (don't try it-just imagine it-you seem like a nice guy-I wouldn't want to see you go over the hood!). Regarding shuttle shifting with a geared tractor, mossroad is correct-you do (usually-some tractors have hydraulic activated shifting with the shuttle) have to press the clutch, however, you do not have to let go of the wheel. Thumb hooked over steering wheel, fingers do the shift from F to R or back. Another issue is one of control. You have more complete control over the tractor with a clutch and gears. Period. Also, try using your hydro to park on a hill that's a bit steep just for the brakes (and, don't try that except as an experiment). Read a thread in the Kubota Use area you'll see what I mean-his hydro tractor got stuck on a hill and the brakes wouldn't hold it. I'm not "against" hydros, for some uses they are much more convenient than geared tractors-I have operated and rented different equipment with hydros. But, overall, for most uses, the hydro is less safe, chews up HP, costs more, costs more to fix and is really unneccessary.
Anyway, take care. Hope I havn't pissed you hydro folks off too much. JEH
www.bcssmallfarmequip.com